Ricardo Viso | Learning to Enjoy Life More, Rewiring Our Perspectives, & Waking Up to a Wonderful World

“We must ask ourselves each day, “What do I want to do today, and with whom?”.” ~ Ricardo Viso

In this episode of The Remarkable People Podcast, Ricardo Viso, a Mexican-American, shares his profound insights on perspective, overcoming adversity, and finding joy in life. Recorded on Cinco de Mayo, Ricardo Viso recounts his personal journey of losing his mother to suicide, navigating a challenging upbringing, and eventually facing his own battle with cancer. Despite these hardships, Viso discovered the importance of maintaining a positive perspective and focusing on joy. He discusses his latest venture, Joyful Living Lounge, which aims to help people find joy in their daily lives, both personally and professionally. The episode is filled with actionable advice on rewiring the brain for positivity, the importance of empathy, and practical tips for starting the day right. Whether through the power of gratitude, enjoying the small moments, or considering the well-being of others, this episode offers a comprehensive guide to building a more joyful and fulfilling life.

About Our Guest:

Ricardo Viso is a global entrepreneur, speaker, and podcaster who’s turned life’s toughest moments—loss, incarceration, cancer—into a mission to help others unlock real joy. As the founder of Joyful Living Lounge and creator of the RIC Method, Viso blends deep life wisdom with practical tools to help people and teams shift out of autopilot and into purpose. Featured in International Business Times, he brings raw honesty, good vibes, and a fresh take on resilience to every conversation

SHOW NOTES & LINKS: 

• Website: https://www.experienceviso.com/
• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ricardoviso
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ricardo.viso
• Instagram: experience_viso

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Transcript

Ricardo Viso | Learning to Enjoy Life More, Rewiring Our Perspectives, & Waking Up to a Wonderful World

David Pasqualone: Hello friend. Welcome to this week's episode of The Remarkable People Podcast. Whether you are a first time listener or been with us loyally for six years, we are thankful you're here today and hope you not only love this episode, but it brings value to your life and you share it with your friends and loved ones so that way they can grow too.

The whole purpose of The Remarkable People Podcast is to help people grow and glorify God. That's what we hopefully do today for you and every day. So this episode is with Ricardo Viso. Ricardo is gonna be referred to as VISO throughout the whole episode, and what's really cool is he is Mexican by nationality.

He is an American. But today we're recording, ironically on Cinco de Mayo. Which is more of American holiday than even Mexican holiday. And it's pretty ironic because there was a last minute cancellation our [00:01:00] schedule and Viso was able to fill in. So that's super cool and we, neither one of us planned it.

Now this episode is all about having the right perspective. It's about rewiring our brains. It's about how even. The worst circumstances can turn to good, but a lot of our situation is our mind and our attitude and how we think. And Ricardo Viso talks to us about his experiences life, what happened to him, what he did to change and grow, be a better man, how he was able to overcome and learn from cancer.

And then we talk about waking each, waking up each day to a wonderful world. So we have all this and so much more in this episode. Check it out now.

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David Paqualone: Hey Viso, how are you today? Fine, thanks. How are you? Man, I'm fantastic. We are here today and I just told our listeners a little bit about you and what we're gonna discuss today, but right away outta your mouth to start the episode, we have listeners from all around the world.

We have a great community, a remarkable community, and they're here listening to you right now, Viso. And if you talk today, we're gonna cover a lot of wisdom and a lot of gold nuggets. People can apply their ni lives to grow and be better. But if you guarantee [00:03:00] one thing that if people listen to your episode by the end of the episode, they're just not gonna be motivated or inspired about this topic, but you're gonna give them actionable tips of how to apply it to their lives, what would that be?

Ricardo Viso: What a good question to begin. What a good question to begin. I think it would be for sure that no matter what your situation is at the moment. You can find a way to enjoy what you're doing or how you're living. I think that's the most important part of it. 

David Paqualone: All right. And that is so true because perspective changes everything.

You can be in a great, yeah, you can have a great life, have everything that everybody else wants, and you're miserable. Or you can have a seemingly horrid situation and be full of joy. So ladies and gentlemen, we are gonna take a quick break from our affiliate. You're gonna check out this great offer that's free to you, and then we will be back with [00:04:00] our friend Viso.

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David Paqualone: Alright, Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, Viso. So we know that you can be joyful in any situation, right? The Bible talks about how we can count it all joy and how we can, whatever situation we are in, we can find peace. Now that doesn't mean it's always gonna be fun, but we can have peace and joy despite the worst circumstances, or at least peace.

So at this time, Viso, talk about your life. Where are you from? What was your upbringing life? And we'll walk through your chronological life to today. The good, the bad, the ugly, but everything that made you the man you are. 

Ricardo Viso: That sounds good. And just to quickly say exactly what you said, that's what brought me to [00:06:00] create what I'm doing in the Joyful Living Lounge.

It's about perspective. I realized that many, many people, and you said it perfectly well, but they might be successful in terms of what people believe is success, that we can discuss about that a lot. But they, uh, have an amazing life and they don't enjoy it. They live stressed out and, and it, it's, it's sad.

So that's exactly the point that took me on this journey to helping people to enjoy more what they do. I was born, my dad's a doctor. He was, uh, he's from Mexico. Both my parents are from Mexico and I was, he was doing his residentship in Denver, Colorado. And I was born there and then raised in Mexico. I was raised, my dad as a doctor was basically nowhere around most of the time in my early childhood.

He was, on those days, doctors made appointments to visit the [00:07:00] patients at their houses, and it was, it was a very, very hectic agenda for him. So we didn't, we didn't see much of him. And my mom was, uh, was having trouble, uh, uh, adapting to many things. So my rock in all my early childhood was my grandmom, my mom's mom, mom.

And we basically grew with her and announced, and both were, my, most of my childhood memories are with them and to begin, like with a bang. And it's not, but it happened like that. My mom died when I was 10. Uh, she committed suicide actually. So that's when my journey with a, a bunch of different situations that have happened in my life began.

How was it? It was shocking, as you can believe. But it's interesting that many people believe that when [00:08:00] kids, or you have kids also and you don't understand, I perfectly understood what was going on. I didn't understand. The reasons and everything that's behind a person committing something like that. But I knew exactly well what she has done, what was happening and my way of dealing with it.

I, I don't know why I cannot tell you exactly 'cause I was 10 again and I was not taught that. But I talked to everybody, everybody that I met, I, what was going on. I cried and I said, well, my mom is gone. And that helped me get over it, I think in a much healthier way. In terms of, I don't know if you can actually.

Go over that, but healthier. My brother, on the other hand, my, he's younger than me, he's two years younger. He was seven at that time and he didn't [00:09:00] even mention it. I mean, he was like completely shut off. It happened. He went, my dad told us that that was going on, what happened? And, and he went to bed and he never talked about it anymore.

So it helped me to talk about it with everybody that I met. And that's, that was the beginning again, of these life with challenges that are, let's call them abnormal or not. Everybody has him around. And that's when it began. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. And then, was it just you and your brother who was a three years younger than you?

Or do you have any other siblings? No, only me and my, my youngest brother. Yeah. And then your, so your dad was working a lot, your grandmother was raising you and then basically. How was your, before the suicide, how was your relationship with your dad? Was it great? Was it terrible? Was it, you know, it was not bad 'cause he's a very good 

Ricardo Viso: man and, but, but we, we never saw him.

He was, [00:10:00] honestly, he, he worked weekends, he worked every day. He went, we went away to school in the morning and he arrived late at night. So we really didn't have, uh, a relationship per se, and I guess much more like old parents, that they didn't have a relationship as the one that we like at least these days.

But it was not a bad relationship, it was just a lack of, we didn't have a, a close relationship with him at all. So he was. Very hard for him and it was very hard for us. 'cause he didn't know what to do with it. I mean, imagine that he was 37 years old and suddenly being widowed with two kids that you never see, that you don't know even honestly what they like, what they don't like it.

It's very hard. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. And he's going through the loss of his wife, what to do and how do I take care of my sons? And then a lot of times people get, um, in America, our heaviest [00:11:00] listenerships in America. But based on the country you're from and the culture physicians, they're not like always in America where they make a ton of money and they're prestigious.

That's correct. That's correct. So's when your dad was working in Mexico, was it an affluent life where he had to work a lot? Or was it he was working a lot to get by? What was the situation then? Um, 

Ricardo Viso: I guess, I mean, we did good. It was not a bad situation, but he was. At that early stage when you are gathering your clientele and you're building your, your career.

So he was like the assistant doctor of a very well known doctor at that time. So he made all the, the home call visits. And so he was really working to establish himself as a, as a, let's call it a, a well-known physician. And it's, it, it, it's, uh, it's similar in [00:12:00] terms to the us but not as, you don't accumulate the amount of wealth you can accumulate in the us.

In the US doctors are, I mean, you always talk about doctors and lawyers, and now engineers as well, but it, it's not the same. But, but they, if you have, actually, if you have a private practice in Mexico as a doctor, you can make a very, very, very good living if you don't have a private practice, it's very complicated.

Actually. They don't earn enough money. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. I, I, I just want to throw that out there because a lot of people have this, you know, their mental paradigm is, oh, doctors make a lot of money. Yeah, I agree. No, no, I agree. When even in America, years ago, doctors have always done, let's say, better than average, but they were providing a service, and it wasn't like they were making millions of dollars a year.

Like some of 'em are now . So now you're 10 years old.

You're having, you're dealing with it through expression. Your brother's bottling it up, and this show isn't [00:13:00] about your brother. But we will talk because sometimes, like, you know, two siblings, they experience the same thing and they go opposite directions or they go the same direction, but they handle it differently.

So you were extroverted, you're talking about it. Yeah. You're trying to get it off your chest. Where does your life go from there? Viso, 

Ricardo Viso: I think the most important part after that, and that this is actually an age when I was, I mean, two years after that I was going to middle school. So it, it's an important change in your life as well.

And my dad got remarried. I think that that was one of the most important parts of this moment in our lives because he got married, so we had somebody to really look after us. And she was an amazing woman. She was very kind, very loving. And we actually had somebody taking care of us. So it was a, a major change [00:14:00] as well.

'cause she was there. She was, I mean, so that made things much more easier for me and my brother, to be honest. It was a, a, I don't know how to call it, it's not a move. I mean, they, they happen to met, meet and everybody. It's not that I, I don't think he thought about it. Oh, I'm, I'm gonna find somebody like this.

It happened and it was a very good thing that it happened. 'cause it changed, I think the, the dynamics inside our home and it changed the way we were taken care of. 

David Paqualone: Oh yeah, totally understandable. And culture's different, time period's different. It's just how life is. So did she have any children or did her father No, no, no.

She was 

Ricardo Viso: actually very young and she didn't have any children. 

David Paqualone: Did they have more children later together? No. 

Ricardo Viso: No, no, they did not. Wow. They did not. Interesting. 

David Paqualone: So you're growing up with her and you felt welcome with her. You guys got along, 

Ricardo Viso: uh, [00:15:00] amazingly. Yeah. She was, she was one of the most important things that happened to us in that early childhood for sure.

And by far 

David Paqualone: That's awesome. That's awesome. So now you're a teenager and your brother, I'm taking it, is he also accepting of her? 

Ricardo Viso: Yeah. Yeah, actually she was, he was always closer to her. And I think it was part of that, that he was so introverted at that time that she, she look after him a little bit more and I was.

I, I, I lived with friends a lot. I, I, I made a lot of friends. I love being with friends and all my, all middle school, high school, and even college. I spend most of my days with friends out of the, of my home and having over sleepovers with friends and I, I lived with my friends. It was like my most important part of my life at that moment.

[00:16:00] It was, it was my friends, for sure. 

David Paqualone: Okay, so now your grand, let's touch on one more thing in your past and then we'll keep moving forward. Your grandmother that was raising you, your mom's mom, wa, was she still close or once she, she 

Ricardo Viso: made an amazing move in terms of when my mom died. You can imagine many things happened in terms of the relationship between my dad and.

Her family and my grandfather was, uh, a mess with my dad. So it, it became very chaotic. And my grandmom approached my stepmom and she said, well, if you need anything, I'm here. And I wanna keep in touch and very closely to my grandkids. And I think that was an amazing thing for her to do. 'cause they, we ended up spending a lot of [00:17:00] time with my grandmom.

I mean, she always, I mean, she was there all the time. And we spent maybe a couple of weekends a month with her still. So she, she stayed close until she died forever. Yeah. She was always there. 

David Paqualone: Wow. That's, that's fantastic. It sounds like even though it was a bad situation, it really did work out as best as it could for you.

So I'm really happy to it. Look, it's, 

Ricardo Viso: it's, it, it happens and, and that's one of the things that I, again, I started doing it by instinct. I, I, I didn't know what was going on, honestly, inside my mind until recently actually, that I started it and everything. But I, I do believe that when people ask me, not at that moment, but later, of course, the worst thing that happened to me until then was my mom's death.

But it was an amazing thing that happened in terms of, I was very seldom, or I can say most [00:18:00] very difficult to see me anxious or worried because life was, I mean, I. To be lived. I, I, I already had one of the worst moments in my life, so I, I, I wouldn't get concerned or anxious or worried about things that were not important, you know, and you tend to do that a lot.

We tend to find ways to get stressed and, and so I learned very young about that. So when people ask me, oh, was that, it was very hard, but it was also the best thing that happened to me. It created a very positive outlook in life for me. That's what it happened in the, in the good side. That was the best thing that happened to me in terms of building that character or positive character or personality.

For sure. 

David Paqualone: And then, let me ask you this then. So would you say, is your father extroverted or introverted? I'm guessing an extrovert, but 

Ricardo Viso: No, [00:19:00] no. He's a, he, he's an introvert, introverted. He's a much, yeah. Yeah. He's. I, I don't know. It might sound funny, but he's so, doctor, such a, he has a doctor personality. Yeah.

He's like very calm, very, he doesn't raise, raise his voice at all. I mean, when he got mad at us at all, it was like he's staring us and, but he never raised his voice. He was always like in a very, and, and he was, he, he's an introvert for sure. 

David Paqualone: Okay. And then your brother, he was introvert on introvert side.

What about your mother? 

Ricardo Viso: She was on the other side of extrovert. 

David Paqualone: On the extrovert side. Yeah. 

Ricardo Viso: You could never understand how my mom and my dad were married. They, they were completely, I mean, honestly, they, they were [00:20:00] not good for each other. It was, I, I complete disaster marriage. It ended up that way, one way or the other.

And, and they were completely different in every aspect of life. 

David Paqualone: Well, they say opposites attract, but I know what you're saying. There's gotta be something that's that foundational 

Ricardo Viso: in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. I, I agree. I, I, I know about that and about opposites. Yeah. But 

David Paqualone: you have to have something to hold onto and then to Yes.

Ricardo Viso: If not, it's chaotic. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. Yeah. And like, I know a lot of people marry for all sorts of reasons. Um, but if you don't have somebody, you can, I mean, I personally believe it's to love God most. 'cause we don't make a vow of one another. We make a vow of God, right. To keep our marriages. But, um, the, when you're at home, no matter how good looking that person is, no matter how rich that person is, if you can't talk to 'em, if you can't interact with them, if you can't share, [00:21:00] it's done life with them.

Yeah. It's empty. So I, I think it's just. It's very important. It's a look, 

Ricardo Viso: it's a relationship and all relationships are about what you just said. When you talk about relationship with your kids, with your friends, with your parents, if you don't have something to talk about and to fulfill your mind and relationships, I mean, blood doesn't create a relationship.

It doesn't. You need to build that relationship. 

David Paqualone: Yeah, a hundred percent. So keep going. Now, so you, your dad gets remarried, wonderful woman, steps in, takes care of you and your brother. Your grandmom's still in the picture, your dad. Where does your life go from there? 

Ricardo Viso: I started, I started, uh, I went to to college and my college years were, I was 

David Paqualone: and university in US or Mexico?

Ricardo Viso: In Mexico. Okay. [00:22:00] And I was all over the place in terms of, I didn't, I have no idea what I wanted to do. I, I went to university 'cause I, I knew I needed to do it, but it took me, and that's nothing to be proud of, but it helped in many ways. Again, you always see the pride side, but it took me almost eight years to graduate because I changed careers three times and I changed college and I was just, uh, my dad was very worried about me.

I was just gonna say, 

David Paqualone: with your dad being, I was honestly just gonna say with your dad being so steady and was he flipping out eight years? You could have been a doctor. He was flipping out, 

Ricardo Viso: flipping out, flipping out, and he didn't know what to do. And, you know, he punished me, he talked to me. He, he did everything he could and there was no way to, in his mind, to put me in the right track and in my mind.

I was just doing what I needed to do to [00:23:00] in the end because it, I remember one, one talk with him. He was like, okay, I went to Europe with backpacking and I was gonna stay there for six months just to, to work and so to work and different stuff. And, uh, 'cause I wanted to, to get to know the world and get to know people.

And, and he told me, you know what, I, I love your idea, but aren't you worried that all your friends already have jobs and they finish cut? No, I'm not. 'cause I'm gonna go, I'm gonna come back and get a job. Uh, this is the kind of job exactly that I want. And he was like, I, I, I, I don't get you, you are. How are you gonna get that job that you want if you haven't even never worked before you, you're just all over the place.

And I was so confident that I was gonna do it. I went to Europe, I came back and I got the job that I wanted. 

David Paqualone: And what kind of job 

Ricardo Viso: did you want? I wanted a job that I can travel. I [00:24:00] wanted to travel. That's, I love traveling and that's what I wanted, a job that I could travel. So I joined an international, an international area of a small factory company.

And I got to travel. And so he was, yeah, he was very, very worried. And now that I talked to him after all these years, he was, he didn't know what to do. And of course, for his perspective in the way he's built up and wired where everything, my dad's a complete freak of discipline. Everything has to have a plan.

If everything goes out of the plan, it makes him very, very anxious. And I'm the opposite. I don't like having plans, I don't like having routines I don't like. So it it, now that we look back on that, of course for me it was a guy, my dad is never gonna get me. And, but I didn't care. You know, it was like at that age.

And he [00:25:00] was, he had a very hard time with me. 'cause I, he, in his mind, I was completely throwing my life away and I was not gonna get any place. And so I, I tell him, when, what, what, what did you feel about that? And he said, I was, I was freaking out. I didn't know what to do with you. And, and so tho those years, I, I, I left home when I was 24.

I went to live to Boston actually with a friend that was studying there. So I found a job there. I, I studied a certificate of negotiation in Harvard and so I wanted to study and mix it up. So I went to the US and I stayed there for two years. And then I got married and went back to Mexico after a year, uh, at a job that I love because it was, it was at a retail company.

And the way it was [00:26:00] structured was that you basically on the, on the, what I was doing, you learn to manage a business. 'cause you did everything. You did. I mean, you were, you were part of a business unit that you needed to run, so you learned about business and that, that company actually and honestly made me learn how to work.

How to think about a job, not just work for the sake of working or, or knowing a lot of stuff about No, I learned about people, I learned about systems, I learned about negotiate. I learned everything in my mind that helped me move forward in any other job. I, I learned it here. 

David Paqualone: Good. And what were some of the life lessons you did learn?

Because, you know, a lot of times, like we have these shows, it's great you learned it, but what are some of the things that you learned that you want to teach people? 

Ricardo Viso: I think there's one that was taught by the, [00:27:00] by that job and by my grandmom and it's empathy. I, this, this retail company. And also you need to understand the cultural differences.

This, uh, retail company was in Mexico. Uh, so this retail was one of the. Top three, four retailers in Mexico, they had like 500 stores, which for Mexico, it's a big company. And you need to understand that these stores were in towns where people make $200 a month. Literally. That's what they make a month.

Yeah. Not a week, a month. Yeah. And you come, I learned to go. My life was, and I wanted to do it that way. I learned about how a, a store was managed and I learned about the people at the store. And my grandma always taught me, every time somebody gets mad at you, every time you had a situation, [00:28:00] think about what the other person is going through and thinking about and why it happened.

And at the beginning it was like a, an uh, an effort to do that. And by now, every time I have a conflict. It's very hard for people to fight with me because I, I don't fight. I don't, I always find a way to, okay, this is why this is happening. He's looking or she's looking at this, this way or like that. Or, and in the stores, in elect in this place, I learned every time, most of the people, and it happens in every aspect of life again, but when you're from corporate office, let's call it that way, and you go to the stores, you have these corporate ego about, I'm corporate, I'm confident.

You know, it's like I'm, I'm the guy that knows stuff. And the people that really know stuff. And the people that really are the company are the people that are [00:29:00] at the stores. 'cause they are the ones that get a hold of your, of your customers. They are the ones in the trenches. And I learned that time to go to the stores.

Listen, listen, listen. And I never came back with, you should do this or you should do that. I always came with, oh, you know, if you need help here, let's do this. So I learned to understand how, and even again, it applies to everything in life. When you go to visit a somebody's home, when you stay at somebody's home, when you stay at somebody's city, you have to understand how they operate.

You cannot come with your own agenda and expect people to behave and to do things the way you are used to doing it 'cause that not the way the world works. And in my mind, it's even disrespectful to do it. You go to some place, you have to acknowledge, and it happens when you travel as [00:30:00] well. When you go to a city and 

David Paqualone: you, 

Ricardo Viso: you cannot expect people, well, they should know English or they should do this.

No, you are at their place. You have to change whatever in your mind needs to be done. You have to adapt to people in their own space. And that's something, and I think it's the most important lesson in that job because it helped me forever that that's the way I learned how to work with people and to negotiate with people.

I never came with an attitude of, okay, I need to get this, what do they need? And after I understand what they need, I can find a way to have what they need and get what I need. Not only do you know what I, I need to get this and I don't care what's gonna happen. 

David Paqualone: Yeah, exactly. And people who don't understand the culture, that motivation, that leadership, it all ties together.

It all ties together 

Ricardo Viso: and, and even [00:31:00] look it and. And, and I won't even get into it because I hate politics, but today is one of the most problematic situations. People don't try to understand what's happening to the other side of the equation. They just completely block whatever is on the other side of the island.

And that's stupid. That's not how life works. You can be completely, I mean, you can always say that's completely, I, I I don't understand how, hey, but you have to find a way to move a little bit to the middle. 'cause if you stay in one of the opposites in whatever topic you want to talk about, politics, religion, family, whatever, you, you keep one of the polls, you are part of the problem.

You cannot fix anything by being that way. 

David Paqualone: And the Bible talks about a false balance is abomination to the Lord, but it just wait is his delight. And we always talk about on the show, if you're too far left, you're too far right. You're crazy. You gotta find [00:32:00] that balance in the middle. Um, and I think our founding fathers in America modeled that perfectly because people don't understand, like we have, you know, Congress meets and then they check out even if things aren't done.

I don't remember, I don't wanna misquote it, but I wanna say when they were drafting the Constitution, they were working around the clock arguing, you know, voicing their opinion. But they all had the goal of what's best for America. And I think they spent, wasn't it like 45 or 60 days? It wasn't like they went in for a few hours.

It was days of constant writing and revision and bickering until they came up with right now the longest standing constitution. So you're absolutely right, like we need to put our. I don't, I don't believe in compromise, but I definitely believe you come to a point where you're both in agreement or walk away again, you, 

Ricardo Viso: you, we are all, I mean, I know it's [00:33:00] like everybody says it, but we are part of a whole, we are, no matter what you think, if you think you're not, no, you are.

So anything you do to hurt somebody or someplace or what, it ends up getting back to you as well. So if you wanna go through life just annihilating people that are not in agreement with your thoughts and what you believe is true, it's, it's not gonna work out. Yeah. It doesn't work out. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. Yeah. So now you're in the states and then you go back and you're working for a company international, you're traveling, you're learning that the people in their region, this might work in 10 regions, but in this region, they know their business, they know this product's not gonna sell.

They know this product will sell. Exactly. So now you're listening and I'm taking it, you're [00:34:00] converting and making money and being a rockstar to corporate. Right. 

Ricardo Viso: I, I was one of the people in corporate that was able to be on both sides. They, they call it, at that time, like the, the, the, the, let's call it, I don't know what word to use, but the corporate people that knew about finance and business and, but they didn't know absolutely nothing about how to operate a store.

And I was one of the few people inside that could do both. Because I have the education to do whatever needed to be done in terms of business and finance. But I, I knew exactly I could go to a store and be the cashier, be the collector, be the, whatever you needed. 'cause I spent a lot of time at stores. So that was a unique situation for 

David Paqualone: me.

That's awesome. And then where did your career go from there? 

Ricardo Viso: From there, I, [00:35:00] I shifted to a couple of different, uh, retail companies as well. And then I moved to being an entrepreneur. I wanted to, I, I was, I don't say I was a bad employee 'cause I was really not, but I always, always wanted to do things in my own time, let's call it freedom of time, in my mind was, and still is the most important thing.

About whatever you do with your life. 'cause time is finite and whatever you use your time to do is exactly what you're gonna be remembered for. And that's exactly what you enjoy or you don't enjoy. So I, I started a company and, uh, like a corporate event company with a couple of people and I did that. I, so that's when I shifted to the [00:36:00] entrepreneurial side of life.

And I never went back to, well, I did, came back and I'll let you know about that story. But since then, I've been much more in the entrepreneurial side of business than in the corporate world. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. And once you make that shift, people, I don't believe, and you can disagree with me, Viso, I don't believe it.

Everybody's gonna be happy being an entrepreneur. I don't believe everybody's be happy working for a company. I really think it depends on you. 

Ricardo Viso: I completely agree. No, I, I've actually, I completely agree with you. I, I don't think, again, people tend to go over No. In order to, to be, have you need stability, guess what?

Being in corporate world doesn't give you stability. It's a false stability that it gives you. But there are people that are much, much better off working for somebody and, and there are people that are not, and I don't have, I don't believe that you can actually say one or [00:37:00] the other is better. You can't, honestly, you can't.

There's people that being in the entrepreneurial world would be stressed out forever, and that's not a life you need and you want no matter what you say. Yeah. And I I You come to, oh, go, go ahead. Say that again. You come to life to be stressed out all of your life, honestly, doesn't, it doesn't add up. 

David Paqualone: Yeah, and I want to talk about this because I know for me, this was a massive problem in my life professionally, and it bleeds into the personal, and I want to get your take on it so we can connect with listeners and help them.

So for me, I was happy. I wanted to work for large corporations. I wanted to travel. I wanted to be successful at whatever I did. And when I was at like a height of my career, someone I knew that I respected a lot [00:38:00] that was uber wealthy. Um, we were talking one day and he's like, you want to run your own company?

You want to be your own boss. You want to do this? He's like, if not, it's just a waste of, you know, 

Ricardo Viso: life. That's how many people see it. Yeah. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. And that made me dissatisfied with the life I was happy with. And then I was stuck in this ugly middle gray, and the person didn't mean me harm. No, no, no. I get it.

I get it. No. Yeah, they were an entrepreneur and they made rid, and when I say ridiculous money, I mean ridiculous money. Right? And they were right from their perspective, but for me it's like, no, I was really happy what I was doing. So on one hand it like sucked the joy out of what I was doing in the fun.

That's the worst part. And then it made me strive for something I didn't want. So, you know, the Biot talk, I'd rather you be hot or cold than lukewarm. Lukewarm is the worst. I wanna puke you outta your mouth. Outta my mouth, right? [00:39:00] So I was lukewarm professionally for years, and I never had that happiness or joy.

And then, then I did start my own, you know, company and it was successful. But for the longest time I wasn't enjoying it until I had a break. I, I, I don't wanna say a breakthrough moment, it was more like a breakdown. Dude, what are you doing? You need to either do something you want to do and meaning like, what's God's will for my life?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or stop. And then that's when it all changed and I started having fun as an entrepreneur and enjoying it. So when you are talking to people and what you do, VSO and we, we kinda said it, not everybody's gonna find joy running their own company. They're gonna be stressed out 'cause they don't see people see the money, but they don't see the 23 hours a day of working and the pressure on you to get there.

Right. 

Ricardo Viso: You hit the pain point. That's [00:40:00] most important that I can see of for everybody, first of all is we're still today taught that successful means you have to make a lot of money. And if you don't, you're not successful. And. You need money to live. I'm not against money at all, and I like good things and but when your sole motivation in life or your sole purpose in life to find success is to make a lot of money.

I know tons of wealthy people that are miserable, that don't enjoy and they have a very shitty life. Yep. Hundred percent. If you cannot make ends meet, it's harder. Yes. It's much, much harder. You need to have those solve. I I understand that, [00:41:00] but when you get caught in that. Wheel of, I need to make a lot of money.

I need to work hard. I need to work my ass off and work a hundred hours a uh, a week and sacrifice everything. You're sacrificing life. You are sacrificing life. And it doesn't make sense. And I was already like that and we'll get to it later in my life story. But when I got cancer is when I really said, uh, you know, I was right.

And I am right in that sense. You, 'cause you never know what's gonna happen with your life. You don't need to get sick or everything. But life is about experiences. It's about enjoying, it's about having fun, not about sacrificing. And there are times we need to sacrifice. So of course, again, I'm not, again, no, you should not work hard.

You should just relax and, and, and things will happen. No, that, that's not the way it [00:42:00] goes at all. But yeah, you need to be able to enjoy what you do. 'cause if not, it's a waste of life. It is. 'cause you never know what's gonna happen. 

David Paqualone: No, I agree more. How many people do we all know that worked hard? I mean, busted their butt, made society, made their neighborhoods, made the world a better place, and then they die before they get to it.

Mm-hmm. They, they wait their whole life for this false, like, ideal of an a retirement. And then when they get to retirement, they die. They get sick, their spouse gets sick, or they just basically doesn't work 

Ricardo Viso: that way. And you said it perfectly well, you were hap and, and it doesn't mean, I mean, you, you made the change and it ended up being pretty good.

And I love about hearing that, but in, in terms of, everybody in my mind has have their own way of enjoying life. And you need to respect that. And you need to help people, even with your [00:43:00] kids. Friends and family, what, what is it that you like and that you really wanna do it? It's not all the way, again, not the cliche.

If you're passionate about some, no, you, you need to balance it. You, you, if you are, you love being a musician, but you really bad at it. And I mean, it's gonna take longer and you could actually end up being a great musician. Yes, I understand that. But you need to balance it. You need to understand yourself and where you're coming from, what your purpose in life is, and find something that makes that click.

And then you're gonna be joyful. And then you're gonna enjoy what you do. And in the end, you are going to be successful. Most of the times there's not a formula. No. 

David Paqualone: Yeah, 

Ricardo Viso: and I agree, but you need to find a way to enjoy what you do. 'cause you never know what's gonna happen. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. And I agree. And there's steps, ladies and gentlemen, like Viso will tell you.

And we're, we're kind of [00:44:00] jumping to the core thought and there's a lot of details that go into it, but you gotta feed your family. Okay, if a man doesn't work, neither should he eat. So we gotta feed our families. Yes, yes. But there's a transition, a process to getting, to feeding your family and doing what you love and your purpose.

You know, we wanna do what God's calling is for our purpose. But, uh, and even, and even just to, because it's very important 

Ricardo Viso: what you were saying right now, and I don't wanna forget about that. You need to feed your family. Correct. And by doing that, you might end up having a job that you really don't like.

It's fine, but you always can find the same job performed by two different people and one is miserable, and the other one is happy doing it or enjoying it a little bit more. 

David Paqualone: Yep. 

Ricardo Viso: Guess who's gonna have a better life. It's as simple as that. [00:45:00] And it doesn't mean it comes again. You need to work on trying to enjoy things that you don't like.

It's the same as exercising, dieting, everything requires work. Nothing comes from divinity. It's not, nothing's gonna fall on your lap just because you decide it's gonna, it doesn't work that way. You need to work for it. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. You know, you reap what you sell. That, that's a principle. Like when people talk about manifestation, there is some truth to positive thinking.

And it's of course invi, but it's not like I, I am a skilled metal worker. Right. And like all of a sudden I can Exactly. I can weld the mountain. Look, 

Ricardo Viso: it happens. I, I, I've told people, I, I was once in my life very, very, very overweight. When I tell you very, it's very, and [00:46:00] I use this example because I can be, again, I, I was there.

But in order to drop weight, you cannot man manifest. I'm gonna be thin and next day you're gonna wake up being thin. It doesn't, it's impossible. You need to work on getting thin. You need to work on getting stronger. You need to work on getting your right mindset. You need. That's it. And that work with manifesting with all the things that we know of, that's what creates people to be better at whatever they need to be better of and to enjoy life more.

David Paqualone: Yeah. I agree with you completely. It talks about the Bible again, there's power in the tongue. There's life in the, in the mouth, the tongue. Our words have meaning. So I'm not disregarding positive thinking. 'cause I think No, no, no. It's very much needed. It's absolutely needed because you can make yourself sick and die.

Um, but [00:47:00] at the same time, you can also bring life and health, but you gotta put the work in, you know, you gotta do that for sure. Your due diligence, for sure. So now Viso, you're in a business, you're learning, you're growing, you're having failures, you're having successes, but more successes than failures.

Bring us from there through what you talked about. You got sick. 

Ricardo Viso: Sick. I, there, there's an in between there. I, I started like three or four businesses. Some of them were terrible. Some of them worked. And then I came back to the US to live. I lived in the, I came back to Texas. I started an e-commerce business that was doing pretty good.

And you were married at 

David Paqualone: this point, by the way? 

Ricardo Viso: I was, I got remarried again. Okay. I got divorced actually, and then remarried. I got divorced in, well, I separated in 2007 and I got remarried in 2013. And so in, in that part, I, I started [00:48:00] an e-commerce business. I learned about e-commerce and everything, and I, and one of the things that's very important, uh, that, that's the other thing I, I learned and you ask, that's what I remember right now, what I learned in this job or the other job that I talked about.

I learned that if you learn how to work and how to think and how to solve problems, you can work in any industry, in any place you want the knowledge about a specific topic you can learn. You can learn pretty fast. Learning how to work, how to think, and how to solve problems. It's something that I find lacking in many people's skills.

'cause people believe that by knowing too much about something that's enough and that's not enough. 

David Paqualone: Yeah, 

Ricardo Viso: that's not enough. You need to be able to make decisions, to understand what's going on, [00:49:00] to manage people to, and those skills. I learned in that, in that job. So I started an e-commerce business. I started, was doing pretty good then that shut down and then I started another business and Covid came and Covid, uh, completely destroyed that business.

We shut it down and by then, and this is important because I gained, during those years in e-commerce, I gained, I reached almost, or basically 300 pounds. That's how overweight I was. 

David Paqualone: And how tall are you? Five 11. So that's a lot of weight for a six foot six person. But for five 11, I'm five nine. That's a lot of weight.

A lot of weight. 

Ricardo Viso: No, I, I was of course, I mean now I see that I, I did die. I, it was a big problem with me and my wife 'cause she's always been fit and she tried everything to get me thin. I [00:50:00] used to like a kid, uh, hide from her tweet. Uh, different story. It was, it was ridiculous the way I was doing things.

And I, one day that I was hiding from her to eat cookies and all this stuff, she came out, she told me, you know what done, if you don't drop weight next year or do something at least to really try, I'm gone. I'm not gonna take care of you. 'cause you want to get sick and you're gonna get sick. That was like a very important, uh, so I, again, I, I don't want to go into detail about that, but I found a way to relate different to food.

It was not about dieting itself, but the relationship between me and, and the, and food and anxiety while eating. And I dropped a lot of weight. I dropped like almost [00:51:00] 60, 70 pounds by, in a year, 15 months. Wow. That's a lot. And after that, I started doing exactly the worst moment in Covid. I started having difficulty eating and I was like, well, it's strange, blah, blah.

I called my dad, he's a doctor. He told me, well, for the looks of it, it seems like it's when, when you get, uh, when you drop that amount of weight, sometimes. Something happens in blah, blah, blah. And so in the end we thought it was one thing and it started getting worse and worse and worse. And this was 2021.

And by May at that moment, most of the hospitals still didn't open completely to different stuff. So I went to Mexico to see a, a, a, a doctor friend of my dad's to see what was going on. And to make it short as well, they found [00:52:00] out that it was nothing else but a big, bad tumor, cancerous tumor in the joint of the esophagus and the stomach.

So it was, as you can imagine, a huge, huge shock in every aspect. And I, I, I basically for eight, nine months, I. I dedicated myself to getting healthier and took, I mean, they did surgery, they took away my whole stomach. I don't have a stomach. So it was a major moment in life and that's when I realized, 'cause I, I was able to be what I call in another dimension one way or the other, seeing all my friends and people and successful friend and they, nobody enjoyed anything.

They were always in a rush, always [00:53:00] stressed out, always not enjoying what they were doing. I mean, not, not all of them. You cannot, it's never something that's definite, but many people are, don't do it. So I said, you know what? I started helping moms with kids with cancer and I created these speech called the Gifts of Mr.

Cancer. And that. Because I wanted to, again, with perspective that we were talking at the beginning when we started talking, I realized when I talked to these women, uh, with kids with cancer, you're talking about women from Mexico, from very low income levels. And their situations, David, are so, so bad that you cannot feel sorry for yourself.

You can't, and that gives you perspective. Yeah. I have two. [00:54:00] So when we talked about it, when you heard the stories of these women and it was like your turn, like, okay, this tell us what's going on. I didn't have the face to even say I was feeling bad for, I mean, it was like, what do you need? How can I help you?

'cause no matter what I'm going through, you have it much, much worse than I'm having it right now. So how can I help? And I started, I created this speech. And so that's when I said, you know what? And after that I said, this is not only for cancer people. People are not enjoying what they do. And actually you find people with cancer enjoying more their lives than people that have absolutely no medical problem or not a real problem.

They create their own problems. So I changed the speech and all of these to help people enjoy what they do. And that shifted [00:55:00] to creating the Joyful Living Lounge. 

David Paqualone: Awesome. And then, yeah, and just so you know, and our listeners, if you're stuck in this cycle of just go, go, go, go, go. Even if it's all quote unquote good things, you're gonna exhaust yourself and miss the beauty of the journey.

So you gotta, that's the most 

Ricardo Viso: important part. 

David Paqualone: And 

Ricardo Viso: actually now that you say that, it's also very important. I started talking in my mind and in all this about happiness and I change happiness for joy for two reasons. One, happiness is something you pursue. And many people say, well, when I get married, I'll be happy when I get this promotion, when I get this new car.

And what happens? That happiness of that moment of happiness lasts two minutes and it's gone. And if in order to reach that goal of happiness, you were miserable, it was not worth [00:56:00] it. So that's when I said, you know what, joy is something you can really relate to you. It's easy to say or to express what you enjoy, and it's all over the place.

You can enjoy food drinks. People, uh, a job learning whatever. For everybody, it's different, but it's easier to know what you enjoy. So I said, ni, let's talk about joy. Let's talk about how I can enjoy my days better, not being happier. If you enjoy your days better, you're gonna be happier. That's math. If you have good days, most of your days, you end up having a good life.

If your goal is to have a good life and you every day is shitty, how are you going to be happier? How are you gonna have a good life? 

David Paqualone: Yeah, no, I agree. And people who listen to our show, [00:57:00] we've said it many times, you can be happy with a candy bar for a few minutes. You can be happy with a new car for a few weeks.

You can be happy with a new house for a few weeks or months. But it happiness wears off. The joy is that you can have it at any point. It's just you and God, and you can have that fulfillment. So I really like that quote that you said, happiness is something you pursue and that puts a perspective. That's not really how it probably should be, right?

Ricardo Viso: Yeah, no, no. And I change my mantra after cancer became what to do and with whom. 'cause if every day you do what you wanna do with the people, and that can include, again, it can be you and God, it can be you and your family, you and your friends, whatever you want to call it. That there's no, but if you do what you wanna do with the people, you want to do it.

It's a, I mean, it's, nothing is perfect in life, but it's what can beat that, [00:58:00] you know? Yeah. So in the end, it became how to have good days, most of your days. Focusing on joy and focusing on having good days doesn't mean you're gonna have terrible days. It's not about that. It's not about denial, and you are feeling terrible.

No, I'm, I'm great. No, if you're feeling terrible, it's fine to feel terrible. It's part of life. But if you're focusing on feeling terrible, getting out of that state is much, much, much more complicated. If you're focusing on enjoying what you do, it's gonna be easier to get out of that difficult or bad situation you are in.

David Paqualone: Yeah, and I think people can look at it like physical pain because what you're saying is so important, Viso, but if anybody, there's like doctors, your dad was a doctor, but dentists will tell you it. Doctors will tell you it. You can tell yourself this if you have common sense. It's easier to [00:59:00] stay out of pain than to get out of pain.

So if for instance, you have a tooth problem, you know you're gonna have surgery, you start taking like a, I forget what it's called, like a, a Tylenol, let's just say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not kill anybody with it, but you know, some kind of whatever, Tylenol, whatever those other things called, right? You start taking that before the surgery so everything's calm, and then when they pull the tooth, there's not really a lot of pain.

But if you just get the tooth pulled and the nerves flare, and then you're in this cycle for who knows how long, and it's very hard to get you outta pain. So with that in mind, Viso, that's the same thing you're saying with joy, right? And, and having a bad attitude and a bad perspective versus a good, it's easier to, it's 

Ricardo Viso: look, it's, and, and, and cancer helps you with that.

Uh, when you talk about cancer, I can give you a very sad story about cancer like that. [01:00:00] I can tell you, you know what, I have cancer and blah, blah, blah, and it's so bad. And you wouldn't have been able to tell me, well, yeah, you're right. I mean, it's, I, I get it. Why, how does that help me at all? It doesn't.

You'll feel sorry for me. I can talk about all the bad things of cancer. Yeah. And even since the very beginning that I got diagnosed, I focused, I, I told the doctor the very first day, I don't wanna know about your statistics, about what kind of, I just wanna know what I need to do to get better. And I never thought about, of course it comes to your mind.

I, I, I want to be very clear about that. Bad thoughts, bad. They are there. They're, they're never gonna go away. But when you focus on them, you give them life. You give them an opportunity to keep in your head going around and again and again and again. So I [01:01:00] could look at that diagnosis as, okay, this is terrible.

I might die. I might die. I might die and keep thinking about that. And I think I will be dead by now. Or I could think, you know what? I feel perfectly fine. I, I know tons of cases of people that get better. And it's a matter, again, of training how people talk about it, how you talk about it. It happened during Covid.

They scared people so much and I, I, I'm not minimizing covid, but why didn't they say every day, instead of saying, okay, today one 150 more dead people, now we reach 2,000,100. Yeah, but you reach 5 million. That got better. Why don't you focus on that? Why? If I get read my possibility or my chances of living with what I had, [01:02:00] it was pretty bad.

What do you think my mind would be thinking if I started, okay, I have three out of 10 possibilities to live. That's what my mind would be thinking all the time. And I made my mind consciously and with work to think about all the cases that have been good and have had good outcomes. Why focus on the bad thing?

It's something that we are raised to do, be scared, and that doesn't help at all. It's not gonna solve anything for you. 

David Paqualone: No. And 

Ricardo Viso: it doesn't mean the other side is gonna solve it as well, but at least if you actually end up dying, you'll die a much better life. Instead of going downhill and being depressed and all that.

So it doesn't, it doesn't help in any way to go towards the victimization, the sad stories. It doesn't help [01:03:00] 

David Paqualone: at all. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean people in the media want to cause fear and panic and a sense of a loss of control so they can step in and control us and it's propaganda. So I agree with you 100%, but in on our daily lives, like you're saying, focusing on that bad isn't the talk my thing.

We can focus on the good and have a such a better existence. Right. Why waste of time? You said one of the things that you can 

Ricardo Viso: come out of this chat we're having, one of them is how do most of people begin their days? And I can give you examples that are so simple and so stupid, my myself, but they're not.

You put an alarm. How? How does the alarm ring Peppe? That's not a nice way to wake up. Why don't you put a song like, my Alarm Has Over the Rainbow? Or What a [01:04:00] Wonderful Life, whatever music you like. Yeah. Two great songs. Louis Armstrong. Ooh, what a great song. So, so you, I wake up and I see Sky. So I mean, it's completely, it, it sounds stupid.

I know, but it's not. So people wake up with that alarm. I need to wake up. Like you start, like, then I'm, I'm talking about overall, okay, I'm, I'm not general, but then you go and you have to be in a rush. Kids, whatever, or not kids go to work. Traffic commuting, everybody's mad. So that's a shitty way of starting your days.

Plus you have the other part that you start scrolling your phone. And all your groups and all your news are terrible. There's not a single good information you get 

David Paqualone: and it's gonna keep feeding you what you look at. 'cause the algorithm of 

Ricardo Viso: course, 

David Paqualone: so it's just gonna, of course, 

Ricardo Viso: feeding you the same 

David Paqualone: crap that keeps you down.

You're 

Ricardo Viso: talking [01:05:00] about the beginning of your days, beginning in that fashion. It's not healthy. Okay. Viso, what do you do? Honestly, I read summary of news like twice a week at the most. I don't care if somebody in India got trapped by a machine and now I would, I have to be aware of all machines because somebody got caught in.

I don't. I don't expect bad things to happen. So I don't listen to news like that. I wake up and I, something that I learned that I didn't realize the power it has, and you must talk about it a lot in your pattern. But gratitude, I wake up and I say, you know, I meditate for 10 minutes, sometimes 20, sometimes 30, because it helps me realize I'm alive and I enjoy being with [01:06:00] myself.

And then I, I have gratitude about three different things in my life and then I exercise. But so my days begin completely on the bright side. And if I'm not in a very good mood, you know what I do? I listen to a standup comedian or I watch videos that make me smile or I listen to a song that I like. So those are.

What, what? There's a, a person that I follow that's called Jesse ler that I love the way he lives his life. And he talks about one of the vitamins, like your happiness vitamins for the day. The same way you kick, you take supplements and all of that, your vitamins for experiencing life better. Are these a song, a journaling, whatever you like, but they change the way you begin the day?

For sure.

David Paqualone: Yeah. No, [01:07:00] I couldn't agree with you more. And I think if anybody's being honest and open from the alarm, I, I remember one of my goals, I knew I'd be, you know, success. You talked about that. That is a very broad and misdefined term, most especially in America. Most people in the world, but especially in America, success equals money and money's just a tool.

Money is a tool, right? That's all it is. Um, but success to me was not having to wake up to an alarm clock. That was huge to me. It was, I do not have to get up until I want to get up and I don't have to be screamed at by an electrical device. And then I do have music or songs just like you. So ladies and gentlemen, if you've never heard that before, listen to Viso.

It really is a game changer and it helps. It is a ton. It is because you're in, again, I don't know the phases of sleep. I'm not an expert at that. But if you're sleeping well, or even if you're sleeping bad, boom. [01:08:00] You wake up and it's just like a shock to your system. 

Ricardo Viso: It is, 

David Paqualone: of course. 

Ricardo Viso: I mean, internally, and then I, I can go, but internally, it's a different process for your body to wake up, let's call it smoothly and however you want to call it, than by that shock.

David Paqualone: Yeah, and the ideal situation that I think, and you can agree or disagree, Viso, is you want to be able to have your internal clock waking you up. So like for me, I'll set my alarm at 6 0 5 or 7 0 5 or 8 0 5, whatever the day is, whatever is going on. That's just my backup. I try to have my body wake up on its own and I'm not there yet.

I got to the point where I can fall asleep pretty much anywhere in 30 seconds, like almost any day. That's great. At any time. That's great. Yeah, I can lay down, I can lay on on this table and get myself 30 to 60 seconds on. Ah, that's 

Ricardo Viso: great. 

David Paqualone: But now that's my wife. 

Ricardo Viso: My wife is the same as you. I can, but she, she can.

She's 

David Paqualone: a 

Ricardo Viso: professional 

David Paqualone: sleeper. [01:09:00] But the thing is though, the waking up, I haven't perfected that. I struggle with nightmares. So a lot of the stuff that's going on during the day, I think about at night and it's exhausting me and it's not healthy. But just for our listeners, the ultimate goal isn't wake up to happy music.

The ultimate goal is to wake up to happy thoughts that you have in your head between you and God, and you're controlling that internal time clock. And everybody can do it. We just gotta train ourselves. So Viso, it's very interesting. So talk about where are you today? Talk about what your project is, what you're working on now, and where you're heading next.

Ricardo Viso: I, again, I, I created, I started giving these speeches and I did a workshop. I certified myself as a coach and I. I, because I wanted to help people. Again, I, I want, and I wanted to find a, a way that could encompass all of that. Like I, I call myself now a joy coach, not a life coach, not [01:10:00] a business coach, a joy coach.

'cause you can, again, you should enjoy both your workplace and your personal life at your home, whatever. So I created, after many time and a lot of time and a lot of thoughts, I created a place or a community called Joyful Living Lounge. But I'm actually launching officially in the next three days. I already have everything set up.

And that Joyful Living Lounge has a free community inside of Facebook that you can, the part of it is to, and that's why I call it lounge. It's a place where you can find different things to enjoy. Music, videos, uh, whatever you, whatever you find joyful, you should be able to find it here. Then there's a paid community where you have, we have a, a weekly meeting and [01:11:00] there's different aspects and there's a, there's courses and different things.

And then I have the coaching, which I do group coaching and individual coaching, again, for people and companies to help their employees or theirselves to enjoy what they do. And that's it. I, again, it's, it's a matter of finding, I wanna reach as much people as possible to show them. I, I'm, I'm not a teacher, I'm not an expert 'cause I'm not.

But I do believe that I found a way. To focus on enjoying what I do and if I can convert the most amount of people to enjoy what they do. 'cause what happens is when [01:12:00] if you start enjoying your life better, the people around you start enjoying as well more their lives. If you're talking about your family, your kids, your parents, what you're talking about, your job.

If your boss or your team boss, or your team leader starts to enjoy more, what he does normally and the regular weight happens is the team starts to enjoy more. And in, in life and in work, when you do that, you are more productive, teams are more productive. It changes completely the way you approach your days.

So I wanna reach as more people I can possibly can again, if they can increase their joy of doing things 2%. That's great. That's great. It's, it's better. [01:13:00] 

David Paqualone: Yeah, absolutely. And you know, we talked about different things that we talked about, you know, perspective and we talked about waking up and how new instead of using music instead of alarm clock.

And we talked about a bunch of other topics, but if you were to close this episode with maybe just some tips, 1, 2, 3. Hey, you can go to my website, we can set up some coaching. We can, you know, we have all these literature and materials that by the time this episode is released, you'll have access to and someone can continue the conversation with you.

But is there like one or two things you can say, Hey, try this, this work for me. What would be some of those things that would help, that helped you Viso, that could help our listeners? 

Ricardo Viso: I think the first tip and the most important one is, and we talked about it, but I wanna be very clear, enjoying things is something you consciously have to want to do it and you need to work on doing it.

You don't [01:14:00] wake up saying, I'm gonna enjoy and start enjoying. It doesn't work that way. You have to really say, I wanna enjoy, I created based on different people that are experts in the field. It's called RIC Rec, which is also my name, Ricardo. But to help people and it's recognize, first you need to recognize that you're not enjoying as fully as you are.

Then I, which is identify what makes you enjoy life. What do you really enjoy? In terms of, again, I enjoy reading, I enjoy walking. I enjoy find all those. And then the sea of consciousness of consciously looking to do those things on a daily basis. And I think the first tip is that [01:15:00] whatever you wanna increase your joy of doing, you need to consciously focus on wanting to enjoy it more.

If you just say, I hate this, I hate my job, I okay, you hate your job. Let, let's put that example. What is it that you hate about your job? Well, I hate this and this and that. Okay. What are the two or three things you don't hate about your job? Well, I love my coworkers. Okay. How can you increase? A little bit more time, a little bit more different things with your coworkers that'll help hate that job a little bit less.

You know, it's, you need to find those specific things in your workplace or in your life that you want to really, or that really makes you enjoy and focus on them and consciously do them, or at least be prepared [01:16:00] or want to do it. That's the number one. And the other tip I would think is you also, the, the bad thoughts and the bad feelings and the are gonna be there.

You cannot avoid them. Like when I get diagnosed with cancer and then I got diagnosed a recurrence, I all this, all the. Fear of dying and all these thoughts about what cancer can do to you. They, they come to my mind, but I don't feed them. What is feeding a thought like that? Giving it more and more and more and more space to talk about them.

So if somebody has, how are you feeling? I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm really sad. I, I, I cannot fo Okay. Express that and then, but, and use it. But I'm like, in my case, I have this tumor, but my, the rest of my body's [01:17:00] great and I feel great. Yeah. But you might die. Yeah. You also might die tomorrow out of a heart attack or a, I don't know.

A car runs you over. Everybody can die next day or next minute. So I don't focus on thinking that I might die. I could and I might. And the thought crosses my mind. Of course it does. I I'm not in denial. It's not that Oh, no, no. I'm perfectly fine. No, but I start right away. When those thoughts come across my mind, I start thinking, yeah, but I'm, I feel great.

I, I'm, I'm happy I'm enjoying this. I feel perfectly fine. I, and that creates a pattern for your mind to help you get faster out of those bad thoughts. And that's a fact. [01:18:00] That's when if you say, no, I can't do it. I just can't. I, I'm just sad that you're going to stay like that. 

David Paqualone: Now, there's some people who are stuck there.

There's people who are stuck. They're like, yeah, I want to be happy, but I don't know how. What do you tell them? Like bang, like snap 'em out of it. How? How? 'cause I've been there. You've probably been there. Yes. But there's so many people stuck, numb and they're like, yeah, I want to be happy, but I just don't know how.

I just don't even want fight. 'cause the first 

Ricardo Viso: thought is exactly that. You cannot say, I want to do it, but I just can't. I don't know how. Yeah. Okay. You might not know how, and you might not be in your mind prepared to do it. Those are limiting beliefs that you've created yourself and that they might be accurate.

But that thought has to be, let's call it, you have to, you're gonna get it. You're going to feed it. [01:19:00] Okay. But you need to add a good thought to it. Whatever you want. Yeah. I can be happy and I just know, don't know how, but you know what, think about. And it helps again scientifically. Once you have that, think about two times that you were happy doing something.

Think about something you might be happy to do later in the day or later in your, that creates a shift in your mind. It does. It seems like even there's many studies that you find when you start thinking about things that made you happy. Even if they made you happy, they're long gone. It changes your way or your mindset immediately, and then you might go back to the back, okay, then go again to the other one by the end of some period of time.

The same way it works with [01:20:00] food, with nutrition, with exercise. The first day you might not. Lift a single dumbbell. You can't, and then you might say, I can't. I'm, I'm not, I, I cannot run not even a hundred yards. Yeah. I I can agree by the 10th day you run 10 yards, you are gonna be able to run 15 and then 20.

It happens that way. And you need to put the it, it's not easy. No. The hardest thing to control is your mind. It is, but you can't, and you're not, it's not about controlling, it's about helping it think differently. If I might say as simple as that, don't feed the bad thoughts or the unhappiness or the, or the stock.

Don't feed it. 

David Paqualone: Yeah. No, I think that's excellent advice. I don't know if it makes sense, but No. And if it doesn't, people need to rewind this and play it [01:21:00] again because that's such good advice. And. If someone doesn't understand, there's a reason. Like there's something in your brain that's keeping you from getting what's gonna help you get better.

So it's like keep going back and keep listening. And normally, you 

Ricardo Viso: know what, and I know it sounds stupid, but it doesn't allow you because one way or the other, you already know that bad place. So your mind is help you, your brain is helping you stay there because at least you know that bad you don't want to get worse.

So it'll help you stay in that bad moment. 'cause you already know that. You already know how to navigate that part of badness, let's call it. So your brain, you need to rewire. And the way to rewire is give it an extra good thought, 10 bad, one good, 10 [01:22:00] bad, two good. By the. 10th day, it's gonna start working a little bit differently.

It does.

David Paqualone: Well, I think that's excellent advice. I know. I need it. You needed it. I think every human needs it. And if someone wanted to continue the conversation, continue the conversation, Viso or reach out to you, what's the best way for them to get ahold of you today? 

Ricardo Viso: They can, they can write me at Viso, at experience Viso.com.

I write, I watch those emails every day and every time they can visit the website, which is ww dot experience Viso.com, and they can visit Joyful Living Lounge in Joyful Living Lounge in Facebook. And again, I'm also in Instagram. And uh, yeah, I, I mean, any way I can help, I honestly, I, I'm doing it. I.

[01:23:00] Because I do believe that everybody, we all need a little bit more of joy or we could use a little bit more of joy. 

David Paqualone: Amen. Amen. Hopefully we can all have the joy of the Lord and then be so full of it, it overflows to those around us. But remember, like these so said ladies and gentlemen, the people around us, they can pour joy into us, but they can also suck it from us.

So be careful who your friends are and who you're hanging out with. So Viso, completely agree. Say again, completely 

Ricardo Viso: agree. And as I told you what you want to do with whom, and if that becomes a it, trust me, it's a, an amazing mantra to have if you honestly be be, I mean, you start the day by saying, oh, what, what I wanna do today?

Even though you have your job, I understand that, but what am I gonna do today and with whom that changes? It can be a call to your mom, a call to a friend, [01:24:00] uh, lunch with somebody. If you really consciously try to find a way to do those things that you do enjoy and you do them, 

David Paqualone: it changes your day. Yeah, I agree 100%.

So I am gonna personally try to practice this more and put into action ladies and gentlemen, like our slogan says, don't just take the good information that Viso gave you and listen and move on, but do it. Repeat it each day so you can have a great life in this world. But most importantly, an attorney to come.

So. Ricardo Viso, thank you for being here today, my friend. It's been great. Thank you, David. It's been amazing. Thank you very, very much. Oh, yes. So ladies and gentlemen, we love you. Reach out to Viso, reach out to me if you need me. Tell your friends and family about this episode. Not so we get more famous, but so we can help more people.

And you're part of me. Agree, agree, [01:25:00] amen. We love you, and we'll see you in the next episode. 

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