Katrina Foe | Cancer, Bipolar, & Other Diseases: Identifying the Root Causes, Curing Ourselves, & Living Happily Ever After in Remission

“Cancer is not just a Roulette-chance game of, “Am I going to get it?”. There are things that we can see in testing today to drive those cancers away tomorrow.” ~ Katrina Foe

Guest Bio: Katrina Foe became a functional practitioner after getting her own breast cancer into remission 100% naturally. She is board certified in holistic nutrition and has been in the health field since she opened her Pilates studio at the age of 24. She also homeschooled her 7 children while writing her international best seller, Nutritional Pilates!

Katrina Foe | Cancer, Bipolar, & Other Diseases: Identifying the Root Causes, Curing Ourselves, & Living Happily Ever After in Remission

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• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katrinafoe/
• Link to the YouTube video of the ear oil remedies discussed in Katrina’s interview: https://youtu.be/S3Jn3E0paSk

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Katrina Foe | Cancer, Bipolar, & Disease: Identifying Root Causes, Cures & Living Happily Ever After 

Hello, friends. I'm David Pasqualone and welcome to this week's Remarkable Episode of the Remarkable People Podcast, The Katrina Foe Story. This week we cover some topics that are controversial. We talk about modern day medicine versus holistic medicine and finding the balance in between them. We talk about Katrina and her life [00:01:00] story and how she was able to overcome and beat cancer, bipolar.

And other ailments from ear infections, to things that we take for granted every day, to diabetes and Alzheimer's, with our patients protecting us from those in the future. So this is a great episode on truly health care and well being for ourselves and our family. So please listen, Do. Repeat. What you're hearing so you can have a great life and share it with your family and friends.

I don't want to talk a lot more. Let's get into this episode and listen to the whole thing. She is a teacher, a coach, an author, She is an entrepreneur, but more than anything, she's a friend and human who wants to help other friends and humans. So listen to what she has to say, check out Katrina's website, and I hope we hear back how much better you're doing in life and how you're helping others.

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At this time, check out our friend Katrina Faux.

[00:03:45] 4 INTERVIEW RPP Katrina Foe 1 April 2024: Hey Katrina, how are you today? Oh, it's great to talk with you today. Oh, I am pumped to have you here. I just told our audience around the world a little bit about you and what to expect today, but if you [00:04:00] were to personally summarize, when they listen to your episode, they're going to get a ton of information they can, like our slogan says, listen, do, repeat for life, to have a better life in this eternity and the next, but if you're going to guarantee them one thing that they're going to walk away with in this episode, what is that?

They're going to learn that cancer is not just, you know, a roulette chance game of, am I going to get it? That there are things that we can see in testing that are going to predispose them and drive those cancer, as well as looking afterwards to see what they need to clean up to make sure it doesn't come back.

Beautiful. So cancer has been in the news in years and years and years. There's billions of dollars that go into funding cancer research. And a lot of people say, even if there was a cure of cancer, you're never going to see it because there's trillions of dollars in the industry a year, right? So you had a journey.

Talk to us about your life from [00:05:00] birth through today. What brought this to your attention? Ultimately, how did it become a passion? What happened to you and why are you here today? So start off, where are you from? What's your upbringing like? So I am from Scottsdale, Arizona. Originally, I live in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho now.

And was up here in Idaho. We had just moved when I found the cancer. I was nursing my fifth baby and he was about a year old and I had a mastitis, a little plug duct. And I didn't think much of it. You know, I'm, I'm a nursing mom. There's a big lump, no big thing. But once I cleared up that mastitis.

There was still a golf ball sized lump there, which was a little surprising. And again, at that point, I still wasn't that concerned. And my mom popped out with this, Oh, well, your grandma had breast cancer and had a double mastectomy. And I'm like, I'm sorry, why have I never heard this before? And I guess it was kind of vague because she didn't talk [00:06:00] about it and didn't really even tell my mom for sure.

That's what happened, which is, I guess back then they didn't talk about it like they do now. And I think it's really important for people to understand what's going on. So. I went and did some testing and came back with the diagnosis of breast cancer. And again, it was really shocking because we had already been on a health journey.

We had already had some issues where we had chosen to address things naturally in our family and seen amazing results. So I already knew I didn't want what standard of care was offering. And I wanted to look at things a little differently, but I was I was kind of annoyed and frustrated because I felt like I was already doing the stuff.

Like I was not eating standard American diet. Like we had, we were making our own toiletries, making our own cleaning products, like from scratch food, like to the point where we had moved up to Idaho. And one of the reasons was because we wanted some land so that we could raise our own meat animals so that we could have [00:07:00] really clean meat.

And I think for most people, that's a little crazy extreme. So You know, to find out that I have cancer, it was just like out of nowhere. Yeah. And now back that up though, because for, we can for years build and build and build and build the toxins in our body. And a lot of times cancers and tumors, like I myself had a tumor when I was 18.

And, And a lot of that can be emotional related. It weakens your body, your mind. It just has a control that we don't understand. It's not really talked about, but it's a hundred percent true. So what happened in your background and past, like you're living clean now, but how many years of quote unquote normal or unhealthy living did you endure?

I'm so glad that you asked that. That is actually one of the 10 root cause drivers that we look at with cancer and it's the one that no one's talking about. No one's like acknowledging or doing anything about, and it's huge, if not the biggest, most important one. So what I see [00:08:00] clinically is that. When they have a cancer diagnosis about the year prior, there's something super traumatic, emotionally, some loss of a job, loss of a loved one, you know, some kind of crisis, some ongoing abuse that crescendos, something going on that is there.

And Oftentimes they know exactly what it is when I bring it up. And then oftentimes we have to dig in a little bit more. And usually those are the people that, well, a lot of people tend to do the ostrich move and dig, put their head in the sand and try to avoid it. So for me I had just moved to a new state where I knew no one out in the middle of nowhere.

I'm an extrovert. I had no support network and I was in a emotionally. traumatic relationship. So there was a lot going on there and there was definitely a crescendo with all the these factors emotionally right before the birth and everything. So, you know, that was about a year before. [00:09:00] Okay. So now, You're now growing up to, let's go back, because normally the format of the show is we go through your whole story and not to, some people whip through their childhood, some people spend an hour in their childhood, but everything that happens to us, good, bad, ugly, pretty, pretty ugly, it makes us the humans we are today.

So, in your childhood, Did you eat pretty clean? Average quote unquote American? Did you eat healthy? Did you eat terrible? Was your, did you have a stressful upbringing? Was there abuse in it? Like what anything else that would contribute to the future? Because sometimes it's like, we have something under the surface.

It's like a ticking time bomb. And then it's, so now you move to Idaho. And all these other instances, all these other things are happening, so it weakens you so that cancer breaks through. You know what I mean? So is there anything else that led up to this? Because we have listeners all over the world and that's, that's how they connect with you because they see, oh, I have a similar story.

Yeah. So when I was growing up, we ate a very healthy diet [00:10:00] according to the government guidelines. The one that says cereal is healthier than steak, right? Yeah. So my mom was always on a diet and it was very much focused on low fat, you know, so we were eating lots of margarine, lots of, you know, fake this, fake that trying to get the calories down for her.

But the, What I see looking back is there was a lot of the inflammatory vegetable oils. There was such a lack of anything nutritious in terms of these good, healthy, satiating fats, which I have found now to be so important for me. Personally the saving grace was that. I loved tuna fish. And I would eat tuna fish straight out of a can.

I, I was super picky eater, but that was my one thing. And I think that that really helped me in terms of getting some fat and like nutrition in there, albeit possibly with some mercury sprinkled on top. For me I was diagnosed with a prolapse mitral valve when I was 10. [00:11:00] And interestingly enough, they don't do this anymore.

But they require that if you have that, you have to have a whole round of antibiotics every time you get a dental cleaning, which means that I had just from the dental visits, like 20 rounds of antibiotics before I was even 21. And there were quite a few other rounds. So like my microbiome was not so good and you know, that much antibiotics, especially prophylactically where you don't really need it per se can make a huge, huge difference on what your gut is doing and the gut flora going on in there.

And I'm really glad that they have discontinued that, but it had a profound effect on me. And then I think another factor growing up, you know, my parents had a very toxic marriage that was hard to, to be around. So my sister and I grew up with that and we were never really connected because she was always at a different school than I was [00:12:00] just timing wise.

So, you know, it, it, there wasn't that support system there that I think most people have going into this. Yeah, and that's interesting. So two things, you almost never hear in, especially in mainstream that how important your mouth is to your heart and the correlation between dental work and heart arrhythmias and stuff.

It's just off the chart. And then when you add in antibiotics to treat it, that's just like the trifecta of opportunity for cancer and other bad things to happen to you. So when you would get on these antibiotics, you know, you're young, you don't know better, the doctor's telling you to do it, but as you get older, Your body starts to kind of, I guess, and, and tell me if I'm wrong, but for me, like I would react more where I, you know, the stomach afterwards, the after [00:13:00] effects antibiotics will last longer and it would take me longer to heal and longer to recover.

So again, my immune system's weakened, it's fighting. So it gives that cancer and other bad things time to grow. Is that how you were feeling while this was happening too? Yeah, that can, that can definitely be a thing for most people. And that's, I think what we would typically think of. For me, I didn't have any symptoms.

My gut was fine, which was again, one of these things that I'd like to mention to people, because when they don't have symptoms, like I was, they don't see things come, they're not motivated to do something. There's no way I would have ever looked into my gut because I didn't have any symptoms. My gut felt fine.

You know, maybe I'd get a little bloated here and there. It wasn't correlated with a specific food. It didn't seem like a big thing. And, but looking back at the history, knowing what I know now, like again, it was probably over about 30 rounds of antibiotics before I was 20 with the other issues that had gone on, ear infections and [00:14:00] stuff.

Like that's a big deal that will have an effect whether you can feel it or not. And like you were saying, predispose and mess with my immune system. So it's a big deal of whether you feel it or not. And this is what gets me so excited because for me, there were so many things that I couldn't feel there weren't symptoms for that were definitely brewing and there that, you know, we can see with testing very clearly now.

Yeah. All right. So again, I didn't mean to sidetrack, but I wanted to kind of fill some gaps in, cause our listeners, Some people grew up in India or Ireland, you know, the medicine's different, the treatment's different. In America, if you went to the doctor for anything, even a stitch, they were like, here, take antibiotics just in case.

Hey, you got a sneeze? Take antibiotics. Oh, you need, you know, it's antibiotics for everything during the 80s, 90s, and even early 2000s. All right. So Petunia, so that's what I grew up with was antibiotics for everything. So many ear infections. I had tubes [00:15:00] twice and again, tons of antibiotics with all that.

We're now as a mom, I know that I can handle ear infections, super simple at home and make pain stop like that without any kind of medical intervention or, or drugs or anything. And this kind of information is really getting lost in terms of how to handle our kids naturally and, and support their microbiomes in any part of their body.

Not just, you know, going to the doctor and throwing antibiotics at it. I totally agree with you. Yeah. And we'll talk about that an hour later, the ear infections, every parent in the world who's had a child that's had ear infections, some more severe than others. And yeah, I mean, I don't know about you, you probably have 10 times better solutions, but just pouring a little bit of peroxide in the child's ear, even my ear.

If I feel a cold coming on, put a little peroxide, let it work until it bubbles away. Man, I feel great. What do you recommend for ear infections? Yeah, that's a great technique. So usually I will do, if the [00:16:00] child tells me enough ahead of time before it's like a huge thing, like they're crying in the middle of the night thing, I will do some garlic ear oil with a little mullane in it.

And you can make that at home, just saute chopped up garlic fresh in some olive oil, keep it low heat. And this is great because I always have those two on hand and I'll throw some mullane in if I have it. If it's like a cue issue that's when I pull out the big guns. And, again, these are things that I always have on hand.

So I'll chop up an onion and saute it in apple cider vinegar, and then strain it off and put that poultice in like a little sack and put a cup. So the steam from the onion and the apple cider vinegar gets into the ear canal. And the warmth helps open it up. And I tell you, it is amazing. I have had people writing on the floor that within like five minutes, they're fine.

And for a mom, like in the middle of the night, like that is gold. [00:17:00] And I just hope it gets out there more. Cause it's super simple and usually have apple cider vinegar and onions around. Yeah. And do you have that recipe on your website or instructions, how to do that? I don't. I don't. I, I could give it to you, but it's, it's super simple.

There's not like measurements and everything. That's how I cook. So it's kind of a funny thing. Yeah, no, what I was going to say is we, I'll put in the show notes, a link, whether to your site or to a YouTube video on how to do it. And then that way people, cause there's people like me, I'm, you know, there's a point in my life where I never heard of such a thing.

You think I'm putting food near my kids a year. And it's like, would you rather put chemicals from an unknown factory in China and your kids a year? They're boiling fricking chemicals and toxic waste that you wouldn't touch if you saw, and you're going to shove that in your kids a year. So putting some natural garlic and onion, that's some great stuff.

Yeah, I can definitely send you like a YouTube video on that. Yeah, we'll put down the show notes just to accompany the episode. So, all right. So now you moved to [00:18:00] Idaho. You said at that time you had five children? Yes. Well, my fifth mom was born in Idaho and it was about, he was probably about a year old when we found the cancer.

Okay. And then back up, did you say when you got to Idaho, was it just the isolation and not having friends that was stressful? Or did you have other trauma going on in your life? So, when I moved to Idaho, it was very stressful for me as an extrovert to not have any friends or support network. We knew nobody there.

We were out in the middle of nowhere, meaning I literally couldn't see a neighbor and the nearest Costco was about 2 hours away. But, you know, I think all of that probably would have been tolerable except that, you know, I was in a toxic relationship, very emotionally stressful, which crescendoed right before the pregnancy, right before the delivery, rather.

So there was all of that brewing and very hard time emotionally for me. Yeah, and that [00:19:00] consistently plays into health, especially breast cancer. I mean, I've had so many women that I know that they were in bad relationships and they end up getting out of it and then they get breast cancer. It's there is a correlation.

I don't understand. I can't explain it, but I know it's there. And then looking back again, we go through your story. You said that your mother and father had a toxic relationship and then you ended up in a toxic relationship. So while the pattern was there, learned behavior, comfort in the dysfunction, whatever it was, what did you learn that you can share with our listeners to help them get out of a toxic relationship or to identify it, not to get into it?

Oh, that's a big question. So for me, for me, when I realized through this whole process, you know, examining what had happened growing up as well as, you know, what happened to me, like, [00:20:00] I, I very much believe that, you know, we manifest our emotions physically, like our, there's some interesting stuff talking about how we store it in our fascia.

So that's kind of hard stuff for us to really understand. And it's not really in our Western paradigm. But I see this every day with clients and with myself. So for me, you know, I had this trauma in childhood watching this and that was a pattern, a model set up for me. And that was, What my dad did to my mom was exactly the same as my ex husband, like doing to me.

And it's, it's, it's really hard to understand, like when you're looking for that ideal spouse, like if you haven't done the emotional work and knowing what you're carrying and what you're attracting and bringing in, you know, it can be really daunting to make sure that, you know, you get somebody because you're, you're going to draw in the same thing over and over [00:21:00] again to get that Almost like a chance to change the narrative.

Yeah, and people who are abused or people who are around that type of abuse, it's what they know and consciously or subconsciously they're attracted to it. So now that you've seen it in your, in your upbringing, you sadly saw it in your personal relationship as an adult. What are the things you're doing now and that you'd advise our listeners to do to safeguard from falling into the same trap again?

You know, I think the biggest thing is to do your own emotional work. Everybody, no matter what your life circumstances, has emotional trauma to some degree. Just, you know, not necessarily big T trauma, but little things that happen that have gone on in the past, happening in the future, you know, But things that are, you know, just [00:22:00] recurring things like people that get anxious or stressed about certain situations, like deal with that.

Because a lot of times there's underlying things there. So I've done a ton of work. I was divinely Put in connection with an amazing couple that does very graceful, gentle way of clearing this. And I have embraced it and it was exactly what I was looking for, both for myself and for my clients.

Because, you know, when you have cancer, To really do this emotional work on a deep level can be very difficult because you're dealing with a cancer diagnosis. Oftentimes people feel terrible. There's a ticking clock, you know, so a lot of times going to, you know, traditional counseling, while that can be very helpful for some, they may not have the emotional capacity to then, Bring all this stuff to the surface and have to make things worse before it gets better and string it out over years to get into all this.

You know, they need something very quick, gentle, peaceful [00:23:00] that lets these emotional scars slip away with melt away without a lot of extra work. Yes. And, what were some of the practical things like everyday things that work for you? Maybe like one or two examples that really helped you through it and get it just before we move back to the actual cancer.

In terms of emotional clearing. Yeah. Yeah. Cause everybody's different and I'm in males, females, there's similarities, there's differences, but going through that toxic relationship and you're going through cancer, somebody else is listening right now, going through the same thing. So as. You personally overcame it.

What were some of the practical things, even sayings or habits? What did you build into your life that helped change things and move you in the right direction? Yeah. So for a practical everyday viewpoint, it was really key for me to be grounded in my faith, like having prayer time. I don't tend to get super [00:24:00] legalistic about it has to be at this time of day and I do this kind of thing.

But, It's more about being in constant communion with the Lord and knowing, that he's got me, that there's, you know, a bigger purpose for what I'm going through. But, you know, additionally again, I mentioned doing the energetic work, whether, you know, people want to go see a counselor or they're doing some kind of energetic clearing, you know, doing something and following that program.

That, to me, was so life giving and so life changing. Actually releasing some of those scars. And so the combination of the two was really been super therapeutic for me. Excellent. Excellent. Thank you for sharing that. I know it's hard and I know it's like, you know, personal but that's what this show is all about is like, not just what you were able to overachieve or, or what we were able to achieve or overcome, but how you did it.

So the listeners can too. And then at the end, ladies and gentlemen, as you know, we're going to share Katrina's information so you can connect with her Continue the [00:25:00] conversation, see the resource she has on her website, and, you know, maybe even become a client so you guys can work together. But let's do this, Katrina.

Now you're going through personal trauma, pain, struggle, freaking nightmare stuff. You know, everybody, people who haven't gone through it, hopefully they don't figure it out. But when you're going through a divorce, it's freaking, it's horrible and it's stressful. And now on top of this, you've had cancer manifest in your body.

So you feed it peace and you get better. You feed it stress and you get worse. So where did your life go from that point? Well, I'm not proud to say that I did not deal with my stuff at the time. I did the ostrich move, which is I think why, as a practitioner, I'm you know, extremely sensitive to, like, how, how important it is.

I got through, and I remember telling my practitioner. Like I need to deal with these emotions, this, these issues. And she [00:26:00] didn't really take that seriously. She didn't hold me accountable. We didn't talk about it. I didn't have any tools. I was kind of left on my own in that. And I, I just dropped it. And I had to circle back around years later after I was in remission to pick that back up and knowing what I know now as a practitioner and seeing how impactful it is for clients.

I'm like, Okay, I need to deal with this. And it, it was becoming more of an issue again to where I was like, is this going to bring it back? Yeah. So then talk about your actual journey. I mean, you have four kids now, five kids. What was the journey like? How did you get through it? So at first I was, again, very frustrated.

I decided I clearly something I was doing was not right. And I didn't want to have my personal bias. My, you know, life or death situation. So I put everything on the table that I thought I knew and started from scratch of what do [00:27:00] I know about health and nutrition and these other factors? What am I missing?

And the biggest aspect was the diet. Like, do I do raw vegan? Do I do more of, you know Weston price or do I do something, you know, more extreme, like a ketogenic diet? Like. Where do I fall? And I first off went down to Mexico to a Gearson Clinic, where they do, you know, all vegan, lots of juices per day set, set of supplements for everybody.

And I had read everything but all the stuff back then was saying raw vegan. And so I'm like, okay, this is not where I tend to go, but let's explore it. And I had a lot of questions. So I was asking the staff different things and they didn't really have any answers. And then by the third day, the director pulled me aside and said, he wanted to talk to me.

And he was. Kind of like [00:28:00] just super condescending and, you know, saying, Oh, well, my staff has been telling me that you've been asking a lot of questions. You know, I think you just need to trust in the process. I was so shocked because to me, like part of help is, you know, getting to understand what's going on and they didn't have any answers.

And I got a little upset. I'm like, I can't trust you if I don't know what the answers are. Like, why would I just put my blind faith in you? I don't know you. And you're not showing me any reasons why this would work. So he told me to leave. So I mean, at that point, I'm feeling like I'm free falling because.

I didn't know like that was where I had decided to go that direction and I didn't expect for them to kick me out of a cancer clinic. But I, a friend of mine connected me with a functional practitioner who does what I do now and she started running [00:29:00] tests. And I had never run any tests. I mean, I didn't even know what these tests were.

And, the whole thing was super interesting to me because there was a lot of stuff, like I said, I didn't have really many symptoms. I was. Maybe tired. I had some extra weight that I couldn't seem to shake. Like there wasn't these big, like I'm just in pain and agony kind of things. And also with everything you're going through, you just had a baby, you're going through divorce, tired and extra weight.

That's just part of that too. So you can't even tell what which is causing which, right? Well, I wasn't going through a divorce at that point. But yeah, I mean, that's just like postpartum, right? I mean, tired and extra weight. So, so at that point, there was a lot of stuff coming to my attention of like, there's a lot of stuff wrong that I need to start addressing.

And so we started on a journey with that. And this is where it got kind of, kind of crazy. So I, [00:30:00] A friend of mine you know, I felt like I had it. I had all the supplements. I had the diet. I had these things and I'm like, I got this. Like I'm feeling real confident. And a friend of mine invited me to a retreat.

And I remember being super judging, like, Oh, they're going to eat crappy food. I don't really want to go there. And I just kept feeling like I should go. So I did. And every time that they had like a breakout prayer time, It was just super heavy on my heart that I needed to go home and be with my husband in the biblical sense.

And I thought that was a little weird, because who does God tell to like, when to have sex? And I had this whole like, argument going on. I'm like, okay, we just had a fight. Did we wait a week? And you know oh, and I have cancer. Like I know what time of month it is. Cause we had just redone my hormones and like, I don't, people are already pissed at me that I'm doing it naturally.

I really don't think that this is going to fly if I get pregnant, you know? [00:31:00] I mean, it was a huge struggle internally. And eventually I I, by the end of the retreat, I did go home and. Have sex with my husband and I got pregnant which puts a whole new spin on the thing because then it's like, you know, I'm like a target.

People are pissed at this point. And so we went and when you say people, two things, when you say people, you mean like family and friends, I'm taking it. Yes. Okay. Very, very public about what was going on. I had shared, I had asked for prayers. And I, I had asked for protection from the negativity. So if they thought I should do sanitary care, Hey, please don't mention it to me.

I don't want to hear it because I didn't want all that emotional, tug of war going on with what do I feel confident doing? And you said your husband, so did you, were you married the whole time? Did you get divorced? Like explain that process. [00:32:00] Yes, the, I was married during the whole cancer process. Okay.

So even though things were rough, you moved to Idaho, even during the cancer, you were still married. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. That I miss. I thought you said you got divorced then and then went to Mexico. So you were married this whole time. It was just a toxic relationship. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry for the confusion there.

So, so I'm pregnant and we decided to get away, which we never did. And we went to the Western Price Conference just to kind of ground ourselves, have a little alone time. And I was waiting for him after a session. I was talking to this guy who had these magnetic bed pads and I'm asking him questions, just kind of killing time.

I'm like, so how does this work for pregnancy? Right. This is, I'm like six weeks pregnant. So it's not like you could tell. And he starts telling me how it's super non toxic, very gentle detox. It's, and then I asked [00:33:00] him how it seemed like this might be something good for cancer with this And he looked at me and he said, well, pregnancy cures cancer.

And I was just like, ah, like even now I get emotional response because I had not connected those. I had not said I had cancer. I had not said I was pregnant. And I found out later after talking with him that he was a cancer specialist that was not allowed to say that because of different NAFTA stuff.

And it was very interesting. This was his at home model. So, this was just really, I've heard since then from several alternative cancer specialists that this can be an issue. This can be a thing. I mean, this is not where you tell someone to go get pregnant if they have cancer. But it can have that effect in some people, which I had never heard.

I had heard people having abortions when they're, they find out they have cancer. So this was like really mind blowing to me, but. [00:34:00] I, I get very sick when I'm pregnant. The hyperemesis gravidarum where you're just, you can't keep food down and everything. So like all my supplements and food, best intentions kind of went out the window and there was very little for my cancer that I could still take that was safe during pregnancy, but.

There was some interesting dynamics going on with the pregnancy. I got a very ridiculously severe anemia. And by about a month before I delivered, the whole golf ball was gone. Wow. So your body like dissolved it. So even though you were getting anemic, thinning it out, it was using that anemia to thin out the cancer.

Is that what happened? There was, there was something going on and I wish I could say that I knew exactly what it was. I wish now looking back that I'd done more testing during that time, just for my own curiosity to see what was going on. But I had a [00:35:00] friend that was telling me how she felt her tumor going down every day, and I was getting a little like up in the head about it.

So I stopped touching it and checking on it for probably four 6 months just to not drive myself crazy. So, again, I wish I had looked into this a little bit more and had done some more blood work and different things, but I didn't. So yeah, something was magical, joking happening physiologically in my body that My body was able to break down the entire tumor and get rid of it.

Yeah. And that's so intriguing because there's always a reason. Like God creates science. So if somebody says they don't believe in God, well, you still create science. Two plus two is four and the world still spins. But when it comes to what you're saying, whether. You know, whatever the process was, even just the growth of a human and the stem cells and the new life, all that you guys feed off one another.

So it might've taken some of those baby grow stem cells, all the DNA and the healing in the world. And it just [00:36:00] pounded away that cancer. So that's super interesting. I'm like you, I don't know how to explain it maybe scientifically, but it's real. It really happened. So awesome. So where does your life go from there, Katrina?

Okay, this is where it gets really interesting. This hasn't been interesting enough, right? Right. So, so I nursed him for a year and then I went back to my practitioner and said, okay, I did not finish all the work for all the stuff that we had found, you know, and I want to get back and finish that work to make sure that this does not come back.

Cause I really understood at that point that. The soil that grew the cancer needed to change and I hadn't done that because I had kind of taken a little shortcut detour by having a baby. So she told me to read Fat for Fuel by Joseph Mercola and I was like, no, like ketogenic is scary. That's really dangerous.

Like, [00:37:00] and she introduced me to Dr. Naysha Winter's book Metabolic Approach to Cancer. And I did read Mercola's book. And by Two thirds of the way through, I was doing a Q jenk diet because it really resonated the science and the concepts behind these books. And what I found was really interesting.

So I, I did mention, but growing up, I had been diagnosed bipolar. I had been on heavy medications, inpatient at one point for about a week. And in my 20s, I had weaned myself off because the meds felt terrible. They didn't help. They, you know, changed a million times and it didn't actually take away any of the symptoms.

So there had been about 20 years where I white knuckled it. And I was determined, like, I was not gonna do anything to hurt myself because of my moral convictions. But it wasn't fun to live that way. And when I went [00:38:00] on the ketogenic diet, I noticed that I was feeling better. But I didn't really say anything because I didn't know if it was like a temporary thing, but then my daughter, pointed out we were doing like a family devotion about being joyful in all things and, you know, how different situations we can find, you know, God's, Working in it.

And she goes, well, like mom's cancer. I'm like, what do you, what, what? And she goes, well, if mom hadn't had cancer, she wouldn't have tried keto and now she's happy. So before I was ready to see it, say it and claim it, like she saw it. And what I found is since then I've had another baby and I was not able to stay in ketosis during that.

And I could feel it. All the symptoms came back and I can play with it now of like, if I'm in a ketogenic state, I can put my bipolar completely in remission. And at this point, I've got some other tools that so I don't have to [00:39:00] stay as strict keto, but it's, this is not out there either. Like the mental health connection with diet.

Granted a ketogenic diet is pretty extreme and most people don't want to deal with that, but. If you're talking about, you know, not feeling suicidal or not dying of cancer, like, hello, it's totally worth it. So this is kind of where my journey went. Yeah. And that's, and there's so much to life and, you know, I hate to say this, but our medical system gets paid to keep people sick.

You know, I had a friend who for three years, he had the same issue. Kept flying to America to get the quote unquote best medical care in the world. Three years, he was still sick. He went to Thailand one day, 500. They told him what was wrong, gave him like a simple plan to fix what was going on with him.

And three days later, he didn't have a problem that he's had for years. [00:40:00] And it's because they care about healing people, not keeping them in the system. So what you're saying makes total sense to me, and hopefully it's resonating with our listeners. And I really do, you know, how many people now are struggling with mental illness and bipolar and depression and all of these things since the government locked us down globally, right?

So what were some of the things besides just a ketogenic diet? Are there any other tips or tricks you have for people struggling with bipolar that help you stay stable and without having kind of a setback? Yeah, so many things there. So you had said earlier about them, you know, not ever finding a cure for 100 percent agree.

They're not going to find a cure ever because there is not one cure. So we know that cancer is multifactorial. And so it's very individual for the end of, you know, each person, what is causing the [00:41:00] cancer? And it, it's not one thing, you know, so if you're chasing after one thing to get one cure, it's not going to work because it's never one thing.

It's usually out of the 10 areas that we look at. And these are all things that are well researched. There's usually like seven or eight things that are driving the cancer. So it's finding all of the things and making sure that you address all those. And again, the emotional mental component is one of those areas.

So with something like bipolar even, you know, anxiety, depression, these are so common nowadays. And to actually address those, it's really, really important. Yes, the ketogenic diet is going to be the base foundation to get those fats in that are, again, clean ketogenic. So not the vegetable oils and such, but you know, things like butter, tallow coconut oil, avocado oil, olive oil, those kinds of healthy fats.

Those are going to be super nourishing to the brain and [00:42:00] very, very helpful. And then getting the carbs down is going to produce ketones, which are therapeutic, not only for cancer, but also for a lot of these mental illnesses and such that we're dealing with. And what I have found is that when I'm dealing with cancer clients, like there's so many things going on, but if I don't first address the anxiety and depression, that does not seem like the main issue, obviously, I'm not going to get any of those other things to move.

So if they're depressed and they can't get off the couch and they're not motivated to live, Are they going to do all these crazy protocols to address all the other areas that created the cancer? No, no, they're not going to touch it. And they're going to be so bound up in anxiety or whatever their issue is that we can't deal with things.

So making sure that that's a priority. And so for me, ketogenic diet's a really, really helpful one and that will do it. But also the mineral lithium orotate I have found to be super [00:43:00] helpful. Now I just want to clarify, not the prescription lithium carbonate. That can be very toxic in high amounts and needs to be watched and addressed with a practitioner.

But lithium orotate is over the counter. This is a mineral that should be in our water supply and it's not. And some people are more sensitive to needing more of it. And there's a lot of research. There's no negative side effects. It's a beautiful thing. And you need very, very little. It's pretty low dose compared to the carbonate.

But looking at the neurotransmitters. So I'll look at an oat test and see what the neurotransmitters are doing and look at that along side. Side the symptoms to really address like, oh, we need some extra B vitamins. Let's make sure you're breaking down your protein to get the amino acids properly.

You know, all that stuff. We have tools to see what's needed and really address things thoroughly. Yeah, I think that's really interesting that you talked about the lithium. Because, you know, old school people were depressed. They'd put them on [00:44:00] the chemical lithium and, you know, here, this will make you happy, right?

Yeah, well, that's what's in you know, you've heard probably about cocaine being in Coca Cola originally, like 7 Up was actually lithium. And they would give people that to make them happy because they knew that that mineral was really helpful that way. Yes, and that's what I was going to get at. So everybody talks about Cuban cigars, Cuban cigars, Cuban cigars and Cuban cigars.

Yeah, they're at the right, you know, level of the planet where they have the right humidity and the right temperature and the tropical environment. But what most people don't know is that Cuba has the highest lithium content in the soil than any country in the world. And when you grow these tobacco leaves, that's why people love Cubans.

They don't even know it, but that euphoric, that relaxing feeling, the higher the lithium content in the soil, the higher it goes into the plant, the better medicinal effects it has. [00:45:00] So that's similar to what you're saying. I didn't even know you said it's lithium orotate. Yeah, and that's again, you can, this is a supplement that you can get over the counter.

It's not a prescription. Usually if people have. Well, you don't need very much. It's low dose. And sometimes it takes a while if people are super deficient to kind of build up in their system. Sometimes people feel it instantaneously, like you were talking about with the cigars. It just depends on the other things going on with that client.

I did not know that about the cigars. I think that's fascinating. Yeah, I did. I, I never smoked a cigar. I never smoked anything until I was in my forties and I got very, very, very, just what's the word? Like I got so non enthralled, but like so interested in it because when I'd smoke a cigar, I'd sleep like a baby [00:46:00] and chemicals, you know, cigarettes have 227 chemicals per stick, carcinogens, trash, toxic waste.

It's poison, but a real cigar is just tobacco leaves. So the only thing that could possibly be bad in it. is nicotine. But even that, God gives us everything within moderation. So I just would research and research and research and talk to people and I'm thinking to myself, who are the most well adjusted balanced humans I know?

Okay? And no joke, like the majority of them smoke cigars. So I was like, okay, and they're not dying. Like, you know, they're living to like a hundred years old. So I'm like, okay, clearly cancer kills with cigarettes, but I don't think this stuff God creates is the same. So that's how I got onto this. And then like, well, what is it about Cuban cigars that makes them so special?

And it's the lithium content. And most people don't talk about or know it, but that's what it is, exactly what you're saying. So now you're moving forward. You're finding these solutions for your life. You know, [00:47:00] the babies were healthy. You're healthy now. Where does your life go from there? Katrina? Yeah, the whole process just spurred on my curiosity to really understand, kind of like you were talking about with the cigars.

So I went back to school to become a nutritionist, did quite a few years functional medicine training, and then advanced cancer training directly with Dr. Neysha Winters, which was kind of cool to circle back around after I had read her book when I was cancering. But, I, I did not intend to originally go to school to like, become a practitioner.

I wanted to understand what in the world had just happened to me because, you know, I've always been fascinated with the body. I taught anatomy and stuff for many years, but. This was a whole new level, a whole new realm that I was not familiar with. And so the more I knew, the more I kept my mouth open and it was telling everybody about what I was learning and [00:48:00] people were demanding that I work with them.

I'm like, Oh no, I, I'm not. And, I just kind of became a thing where I could not do what I'm doing because I was so passionate about it. And. People were kind of demanding that I do it. So I absolutely love what I'm doing in terms of helping cancer clients now that, that want to figure out why they had cancer, because that's the big question that no one talks about in oncology.

Why is this here? And they, they say stuff like, well, it's just chance. Are you kidding? Because we have all this research and all this testing and you're not using any of it. You're giving the same thing to everybody and they're calling it precision medicine. And it's not at all. Yeah. I remember talking to my not radiologist, it's called the people who do chemotherapy the radiation therapy.

I forget the name. What? The radiologists do radiation therapy. Yeah. Yeah. And there's another name too, but I remember talking to them and they're [00:49:00] like, and I went to Mass General, Mass Eye and Ear. I mean the best in the world at that time. And I'm like, wait, radiation causes cancer, but you're going to fry me with radiation to get rid of the tumor.

I'm like 18 years old, 19 years old, and they're like, yeah, like, but we'll save you today. And you might die later. And I'm like, okay. And no joke. I mean, that guy was amazing, but he died in like 50 late fifties, early sixties from being around all the radiation. So while it helped me, the thing that helped me wasn't.

The radiation, it was, I cleaned my diet of all dairy, all sugar, all artificial stuff. And I don't live like that today, but for two and a half years, I didn't even have ketchup. And I just had to do a giant reset on my body. And to this day, shrink, shrink, shrink, shrink, shrink. The tumor just continues to shrink to like go home to see Jesus.

So now you're figuring this out in your life, the cancer's in remission, you're getting this degree. And I'm sure the more you learn, the more you're like light bulb, light bulb, light [00:50:00] bulb, right? Yeah, yeah. And that's exactly it. Because, you know, it's a little crazy making and it is very like process oriented oncology that, you know, even the diagnostic techniques are all like cancer causing, cancer spreading.

Which drives me crazy. There's some new technology out there that I'm using that where you can diagnose without having to be invasive and toxic, but that's just, I mean, standard of care still doesn't acknowledge it even being there, even though it's past FDA stuff. So, you know, when I'm looking at this.

It's just, you know, we know, for example, that like for me, I moved into a house that was super toxic mold laden. And that was one of the drivers for me is that I was very, very high in toxic levels of mold. If, if you go into an oncologist, Are they looking to see, hey, is she moldy? Are those [00:51:00] molds like, are they, I mean, they're known carcinogens, but hey, let's just focus on the tumor.

Let's make the tumor go away and then put her back in the same environment and see if it comes back. Let's cross our fingers. Like this is insanity. We know these cause cancer. Why would we not look for this with all cancer clients and see, is this something that's an issue? Because, you know, I firmly believe there's a time and a place, like you said, for standard of care.

A lot of times, things are very acute when you find them. You need to address it by yourself sometime. Awesome. But make sure that you go back and address the issues that cause the cancer in the first place because that way you don't have to live in that dark cloud of like, is it going to come back? You know because it will come back and people are like, oh, it's just chance if it comes back.

No, it's not. We can see very clearly with testing. It's like if you eat Twinkies all day and you get fat, it's not just coincidence. There's a reason. It's cause and effect. [00:52:00] But, but this is where it makes me crazy because people come to me and they have a strong, obviously, if they're going to bother coming to me in the first place, they have strong convictions that diet matters.

And they'll tell me over and over and over again, I asked my doctor what I should do now, and he said, diet doesn't matter. Like, this is insanity. We know diet matters. We know that. And that's not even all the toxins that the people are living in or the different hormones and chemicals that are out of balance.

And, and so. deficient and such. Like the idea is instead of focusing on the tumor, the tumor is a symptom of a body that is screwed up. And so let's find all the ways that this body is screwed up that created this perfect storm. Because at the end of the day, our bodies were designed to cure cancer itself.

You know, as a practitioner, I don't cure cancer. And I say that often because that is not my job. That is not what I do. What I do is I help people to find the [00:53:00] root cause drivers of cancer. We address those and then the person's body, their own immune system that's designed to go after rogue cancer cells, eat away the shell of tumors and dissolve it, all that, it can do its job when it's not overwhelmed.

So the magic question is, what are the root cause drivers for that person? Yeah. And I, again, you've said two things that people really need to understand that it's good for me to hear. It's good for everybody here. But you said, number one, cancer is, there's so many variables. It's different for everybody to say there's one magic, you know, silver bullet to cure all cancer.

It's not realistic. Right. And then two, people react differently. Like you mentioned mold specifically. Mold affects everybody, but some people it's not a big deal. Some people they get a whiff of it and they literally have a heart arrhythmia and they end up in the ER and they don't even realize what's going on.

It's just like a shellfish. I can't have shellfish or I will end up, I might meet Jesus, right? [00:54:00] Other people will enjoy it or some people just get itchy. There's different levels of everything. So we need to know not just The overall plan, but God's specific plan for us and our, our parameters, right? So now you're dealing with people, Katrina, and you're helping them with the root cause drivers.

You're helping them to put together a plan of wellness. First off, let's finish your story between when you, you know, Can I go back to the mold thing for a second? You can say whatever you want. This is your episode. So with the mold, I think that's a really good example and a really good point. Cause I hear people bring that up.

Well, you're living in the same house as the kids, as the husband, as whatever. And I think the understanding of like, we all have a level of how much of a toxic burden we can handle and everybody's different. Like for me genetically, I suck at detoxification. I'm not good at it. And then you layer on the fact that I was having a lot [00:55:00] of people making people for many, many years, they were pretty close together, you know, that takes a toll on my body.

I'm not going to detox. You put me in that environment with mold and I get cancer. My kids who are in that environment did not. My husband who is in that environment at the time, like did not. But he's got good genetic genes, you know, and he was not making people for decades, you know, so there's, there's all these other factors that, again, when we start doing the testing, taking the history, you know, I had a lot of other things that were not working properly on me that I didn't know.

And this is where, yeah, you can have different situations and different reactions from different people because we all have different histories and different things going on that we may or may not be aware of. Yeah, 100%. 100%. It's, and it's, it's, if you back up and whatever, wherever country you're from, like, if you're listening in Turkey right now, if you're listening in Afghanistan, if you're listening from [00:56:00] Italy, America, it doesn't matter.

We all have cultural strengths. We all have cultural weaknesses, like just basically part of our ancestry, right? How God made us. But then there's also specific, if you're under a load all the time, all the time, all the time, your, your, your weakness, your resilience towards it will go down until you have time to recover.

So what you're saying Katrina makes total sense. And we just need to know ourselves and how God built us. So now you're getting better. You're healing, you're growing, you're learning, and now you're starting to take on clients. So talk about between your birth and today. Did we miss anything in your life before we transitioned to where you are today and where you're heading next?

I'm sure we missed a lot, but those are, those are the, what I think is pretty significant. Yeah, I mean, cause I just kept refining my health and, and to this day, you know, I've got a little more wiggle room with my diet, you know, built in. But I still stay pretty [00:57:00] ketogenic ish. And very, very clean eating most of the time.

Again, I've, I got the wiggle room cause this is not an acute issue that I can play with that, but. You know, making sure that I stay just vigilant on the toxins and making sure I'm not in a moldy environment, and that I'm watching my blood work and making sure the different markers are in line and such in the hormones.

You know, I'm, I'm perimenopausal. I'm I'm 47 right now. So there's, you know, shifting that's coming on the horizon. I want to keep those. hormones really dialed in so that I don't have the crazy menopause symptoms that most people have because that's not normal. Those are symptoms just like a tumor is.

And then just listening to my body, it's, it's such a nice thing to know that I have tools. Yeah. And when you say markers, I instantly think like, well, what are you talking about? Take blood tests regularly. What are you talking about? I haven't gone to the doctor in four or five years. Cause I'm, I'm self paying in America and it's like, I'm not going to pay for that government [00:58:00] crap insurance.

And I'm at the same time, it's like, I'm not going to, you know, Go spend 500 just for the, for the doctor to say hi, right? Thank God. I'm healthy. I'm strong. No problems. But if I was to take a blood test, 47 year old man, what should I be looking for? I am self paid too. Self employed always have been. And I, this is a whole nother topic.

I feel like the insurance system does us a disservice because we don't pay for our healthcare. So we don't take it seriously. We don't value it. But I mean, at the bottom line, like we pay for what we. See value in and to me, like my clients, myself, like I see value in knowing what's going on behind the scenes.

And again, if it was a practitioner that's not doing anything about it, you know, most doctors, this may shock people when they do a lot of blood work, you know, it looks like a whole lot of markers. What they're running is a CBC, a complete blood count with differentials usually, and they're running a [00:59:00] comprehensive metabolic panel.

Those are together worth less than 10. In America. And they're giving you very, very little information. And the more obnoxious thing is that they're using the lab reference ranges. So your doctor looks at the panel. They usually don't spend any time ahead of time, you know, just evaluating it. It's just, you're in the office.

There it is. They're just looking for what is out of range. And the range, like you said, that's, I don't know if you're going to go circle back to that. Yeah. The, every lab test has a different range. And if you don't understand that, like not you, the, the listeners. So a 3. 2 might be normal with one lab. But it's not normal with another.

And if the doctor's not paying attention, they're reading your results totally wrong, correct? Absolutely. And so the way that they set the lab ranges is by whoever takes the test, they set an average and they do two standard deviations. So this is a statistical [01:00:00] thing. It has nothing to do with where somebody is healthy.

So who takes the lab tests? Sick people, usually. Sick People. Is this a good, accurate marker? No, because that means that we have these reference ranges that are way too big because it's based on sick people. And so, so one of the big defining factors of somebody that's a functional practitioner is that when they look at lab tests, they're looking at the functional ranges, or they should be.

And those are much, much narrower and are going to actually be Where any human feels their best, and this is based on research as well as clinical observations and such, but probably the biggest area that we see this being off is in the thyroid. You'll have people all day long, they come in, they get a TSH, so that's actually not a thyroid hormone.

It's made by your pituitary, sending a message. To your thyroid of how much more thyroid hormone it should make. So they're not even testing the thyroid hormones, they're just testing your [01:01:00] pituitary hormone. And that's all they test 99% of the time. And the range is usually like one to five, maybe four.

Okay. So the functional range. 1 2. If people are above 2, I am like, what's going on? And I will tell you that I run all of the thyroid hormones and the antibodies because I want to see where in the whole thyroid story of how these are made and circulated. Where's the breakdown? What's going wrong? Now, Standard of Care has one option.

If your TSH is high, they give you thyroid prescription medication. Period. That's it. That's our only option. Well, if I understand what's going on in the thyroid story, where the breakdown is going, it could be your liver is not converting your thyroid hormone properly. It could be that you don't have the building blocks because your digestion's off.

Like there's a whole bunch of different things that we can see when we run all of this and we understand what we're looking for. But again, this takes a lot more time from the practitioner, [01:02:00] a lot more advanced understanding, and it's not prescription drug based. So there's a lot of reasons here why this isn't being done, but I just want to say there are so many people that are being told that there's nothing wrong with them when thyroid being off is one of a, it's a huge contributing factor to cancer as well as things like Alzheimer's and us missing this has a huge impact on what's going on society wise in terms of chronic disease.

Yeah, I was just talking to a physician very high, high level physician. And we were discussing how America is like the only country that doesn't consider Alzheimer's and dementia a diabetes. And I was just like, I didn't know that. And I'm like, yeah, like every other country in the world, that's diabetes.

It's, I mean, not diabetes. It's yeah, it's a form of diabetes. Type three diabetes. That's what they're giving it that name. And in America, it's like, oh, there's nothing you can do to prevent it. There's nothing, you know. [01:03:00] This is so preventable. It's hard to turn around. This is not something to take lightly.

My dad right now has dementia. and has had strokes and can't walk anymore, but this is all a blood sugar issue. Like I've seen his blood work. This could have been figured out ahead of time. Unfortunately, I didn't know what I know now back when we should have been doing this and it's, you know, too late for him, so to speak, but we can mitigate some of it, but this is absolutely preventable.

And you can see it coming very easily. Yeah, I mean, the sugar industry's trillions of dollars and the diabetics, like the money they make off people with diabetes alone, you know, Paul, ridiculous, right? Yeah. So I want to clarify there. So when you say sugar, people, I think unnatural sugar. Yeah. Well, people think you mean like white sugar, whether it's refined or unnatural, whatever.

I'm talking any kind of carbohydrates, whether you're talking about [01:04:00] flour, any of that stuff, even some of the carby vegetables like potatoes, like this is what's driving all of the chronic disease going on when our blood sugar is off. And for me, that was a driver for my cancer. I was insulin resistant and didn't know it.

You know, usually when people are talking about blood sugar issues, they talk about symptoms of hypoglycemia and that has, you know, shaky, hangry stuff, but. When you have high blood sugar, which is going towards chronic disease, you feel really good. You have a lot of fuel running around. It feels energizing.

It feels great. And people don't think there's an issue. They're like, no, I'm fine. They don't go get tested. And you can see this way before it's an issue. And this is leading to the heart disease. Like you were talking about the heart disease earlier. That's what I'm like. Okay. If you got to look at the blood sugar, cancer, Alzheimer's diabetes, all the big chronic disease, it's all rooted in the blood sugar.

And by that, I mean a displacement of, of carbs in the way people are [01:05:00] metabolizing. And it's all carbs, not sugar.

High blood pressure. That's something that again, like you go to the doctor, like your blood pressure is high. I don't even know if the measurement they use for people is accurate and they've changed it five times in the last five years. So that shows me it's probably not right. And then number two, they want to prescribe that medication like it's candy because it's a moneymaker.

So what's your, what do you think from what you've seen about high blood pressure, the root causes and the cure? Yeah, so for blood pressure, you know, this is just like anything else. The question is, why is my body presenting this symptom? What is my body trying to tell me? You know, if you're listening to the body, you're hearing these symptoms, and you're taking them into consideration of what's going on.

So the magic question is, Why do I have high blood pressure? Not what do I need to take to make it go down? Because making it go down artificially is not fixing the problem. [01:06:00] And so you may look good on labs, you may, you know, get your blood pressure down, but you didn't fix the problem. So what happened is.

You're just delaying when the problem is going to erupt into bigger things. And then people are like, Oh, I didn't see this coming. Yeah, you did. You ignored it by putting, you know, a pill on top of the blood pressure stuff to mask it. And this is what we do in America. It's, it's symptom masking. And that is not going to ever get us to true health, but it's faster.

And it gets quicker results. And we in America, you know, with the insurance industry, we want those doctors to turn people out quick. We don't want to pay for the doctor's time to really do a thorough analysis. And we want results yesterday. And this is, this is where it's an issue. So in terms of blood pressure, Again, you want to go back to why.

Okay. So understanding the mechanisms of blood pressure, there's a lot of interesting factors. So usually you hear stuff like don't eat salt, right? Okay. Salt is not the [01:07:00] problem. So one of the things like you might've heard back in high school science is that when you eat sugar, carbs, anything, you know, your blood sugar goes up.

So your body produces the hormone insulin, which puts it inside the cells. Okay. The thing is insulin does a lot more than just put the extra blood sugar in the cells. It also signals the kidneys when the insulin is high, it signals the kidneys to retain sodium. So you see where this is starting to come in together.

There's this whole renin angiotensin loop of, you know, triggering the whole blood sugar. I'm sorry, the blood pressure that is connected to the blood sugar. So again, looking at a really comprehensive blood panel, which is a lot more than that CBC and metabolic panel, to really dive into what's going on, what's the blood sugar like, and inevitably there's usually issues with [01:08:00] carbohydrate loads.

So you, I would say look at the hemoglobin A1c things like that instead. Nice. All right. So with your story, Katrina, where are you today and where are you heading next? And how can we help you as a remarkable community and help you get there? Oh, thank you. So I am in remission, happily in remission. I feel very confident that I've got tools to see, to test things.

I did have a mold recurrence, which again, I could see because I knew how to listen to my body and I knew what my issues were. And I'm addressing that, but again, it wasn't where, You know, eight things got out of balance. It was one thing. If people are interested, I just launched a group program.

And I always have my one on one clients, but the, the testing that I do is included in those programs. And you can find out more in the ebook that I'll give you a link [01:09:00] to the roadmap to prevent cancer recurrence that goes over The labs that I've been talking about here, you know, to see like, what areas are you off in?

And most of the time, you know, the practitioners are not running this stuff and they're not looking at how it interacts with things like cancer, you know, but other issues, like I mentioned, Alzheimer's and the big chronic diseases we want to look at. These tests are really important for anyone. So I'm just trying to get the word out there.

So any way that you can spread the message if you are interested in working with me my website is cancerfreedom. com. I'm on Instagram, just my name. It's Katrina Faux. And then I'm on Facebook. Nutritional Pilates, which is also the name of my, my first book. So, you know, you can connect with me there.

I love to hear, or, you know work with you if that's an issue for you. Beautiful. We'll put those links in the show notes and [01:10:00] Katrina, it's been amazing to spend time with you today. And again, I don't want to miss anything from your birth through today, where you're heading, any final thoughts you want to leave with our audience?

Yeah, I just, I'm super passionate about making sure people know that there's things that they need to do and look for that they can see when they're choosing, you know, if they've got a cancer diagnosis and choosing what they want to do, I just encourage people to take some time, take a deep breath, pray, do your research.

Because you don't need to be rushed into things as quickly as they make it seem. And then, with the alternative therapies, a lot of times when people decide not to do standard of care, There's so many choices out there that are amazing stories for some people, but then it doesn't work for other people.

And this is where, if you know what your root cause drivers are, you can see which of those expensive and time consuming [01:11:00] therapies Would be what actually moves the dial for you because they're connected to the different root cause areas. And there's a lot of really cheap stuff that you can do strategically for you based on the testing.

That again, can give you peace of mind and save time. Because what people don't usually know is that a lot of those therapies, so say like iv, IV vitamin C. That can actually drive cancer if you're in the wrong metabolic state. But people aren't usually talking about that. They're not testing the G6PD to see where you're at.

Things like matcha. Fabulous. Love matcha. I actually have my matcha here right now. But if you look genetically, most cancer clients, not myself, tend to have a slow comp T gene. And that means that they, they do not detox their hormones fast enough, which tends to lead to a buildup of hormones, which, you know, a lot of people are familiar with [01:12:00] estrogen dominance is associated with cancers.

This can make it worse. The matcha can make it worse. So, you know, knowing what your genetic predispositions are, and then that gives you tools on how to optimize it as well as what supplements and therapies are going to be best specifically for you. And I think it's exciting that we have those kinds of tools and information and there's more coming out every day, which is even more exciting.

I just want that to get out there to people so that they understand they're not just passive. You know, whatever's going to happen to me, it's just chance. It's not like that. Yeah. Well, and you mentioned like a metabolic panel that a normal everyday doctor would run as like 10 bucks, but you don't get charged 10 bucks.

You get charged like 510 bucks. So when you're running these tests and helping get to the root cause with people, do you send them to labs locally? Or do you, how does that work? Because if you're in, you know, Coeur d'Alene. And somebody's [01:13:00] in Boston or somebody's in, you know, Nashville, Tennessee. How does that work to get the right test on to identify the root cause?

This gets so exciting because we have this ability. My, my clients are all over the U S which excites me. Unfortunately, I'd like to give them all hugs and I don't get that part, but. I drop ship kits to them. So for things like stool, urine, saliva collection, you just do it in the privacy of your own home, mail it in, I get the results, etc.

With the blood, that would be weird to do at home, so I'll send them if they're in like a city with a lab core or something nearby, I'll send them a requisition and they can just go there and get it done. If they are out in the middle of nowhere, and again, I've been there so I get it. I have a kit that they can then get sent so that they can go to a local like clinic or something to get the blood drawn.

So there's so many options and it's amazing because we can see all of [01:14:00] that stuff. A lot of it's tested home. Nice. Very nice. Well, I appreciate you Katrina. I really think. You for sharing your story and your wisdom with us today. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, reach out to Katrina, check out our website, continue the conversation.

And remember doctors are humans. They're not gods, even though a lot of them think they are. So don't just take what they say blindly. God loves you. He wants the best for you. Put the Holy Ghost inside you and you trust him as your Savior. And you know, more than any doctor in the world. So make sure you're listening to that voice inside of you.

That's going to lead you to the right way. Reach out to people like Katrina who are qualified and have proven themselves. So you can get quality medical care and. You know, move forward in your own life the way you need to. So, Katrina, thank you again for being here today. I really appreciate you so much.

Absolutely. This was a fun conversation. Thank you. [01:15:00] Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. And ladies and gentlemen, we love you. Share this episode with your friends and family. Don't forget to check out our sponsors like MyPillow and Jasper. Use promo code Remarkable at MyPillow. Get up to 80 percent off everything you order every time.

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Repeat it each day so you can have a great life in this world, but most importantly, an eternity to come. So I'm David Pasqualone, this is our friend Katrina Faux, and we'll see you in the next episode, ladies and gentlemen. 

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