James Perdue | Sudden Paralysis, Steadfast Perseverance, & the ABC's of Overcoming Depression | E65

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Have you heard the one about the young athlete already being drafted to pro baseball his freshman year of college, but broke his next and became paralyzed while playing a recreational game of football with some classmates? You know, the one where his whole life was changed in a split second on the last play of the game due to a late and illegal hit? Despite his body being broken though, through perseverance and a positive mental outlook, he is now an active coach, teacher, speaker, and podcast host today. Remarkable Ladies and Gentlemen around the world, welcome to the Dr. James Perdue story!

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On September 11, 1983, James became a quadriplegic, dislocating three vertebra in his neck, from playing a football game. The doctor said, “James, I’m sorry. You’ll never walk again and you might be paralyzed from your neck down.” Later, the doctor advised his family to place him in a nursing home; he would be too much of a burden for them to take care.

Dr. James Perdue, Professor of Perseverance, worked hard to achieve success as a teacher and coach. He has been awarded Fox 17 Top Teacher of the Week 2005, Teacher of the Year 2002, as well as, Coach of the Year 2006 and 2000. He received the Jo Andrews Award 1995 and the Hal Ramer Award 1991 both for overcoming adversity.

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• “Just one more play.” – Dr. James Perdue

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James Perdue | Sudden Paralysis, Steadfast Perseverance, & the ABC's of Overcoming Depression | E65

Hello friends. I'm David Pasqualone. And welcome to this week's remarkable episode. The Dr. James Perdue story. I am super excited about this episode in many ways. And my brain's actually even having a hard time processing the information. And I was part of the Infor interview. So this is what's going to happen, Dr. James. Is a teacher and he's written books and he has his own podcast and he's got all sorts of credentials. But in 1983, on September [00:01:00] 11th, he broke his neck and became a paraplegic. You're going to hear the story and you're going to hear what happened, but what really sticks with me about this episode is when you have a leak.

There's our argument. Are leaders born or made? I think it's both. Sometimes they're born. Sometimes they're made, sometimes it's developed, but with James, what really struck me is did he have learned behavior from his parents or did God just put a positive attitude in him? Because when his neck was broken and it took him out of professional sport, He was on a trajectory to be recruited during the professional sport.

He wasn't bitter. He wasn't angry. He was just acceptance of where he is [00:02:00] and where he's going and what do I have to do next? So that truly is remarkable. You're going to learn a lot. You're going to learn about the ABC's of overcoming. You're going to be able to see how don't quit before the blessings come.

This episode is packed with great information that you can like our slogans. Not just listened to, but do it, repeat it and have a great life in this world and the next. So ladies and gentlemen, I bring you Dr. James Purdue, the professor of perseverance. Just check out this quick message from our sponsors who are also remarkable people.

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Part 4 Dr James Purdue Episode: [00:06:14] Hey James, how are you today, brother? I am blessed man, far better than I deserve. Yeah. Yes, yes. Aren't we all right. It is good to have you on the podcast. I've been looking forward to our interview, as I've told our audience, they call you the professor of perseverance and they're going to learn why.

So at this time, James let's do it. We have the remarkable people podcasts, and like we tell our listeners, don't just listen to this great information, but repeated each day, do it for life. So when you speak, they're listening, we have a great community and remarkable family. [00:07:00] And if you can just start starting your childhoods, starting your teens, wherever you see fit, but tell us about your journey.

Hey David. Again, thank you for this opportunity to be able to share it. Hopefully you know, get somebody fired up here in the next little bit here. Now I usually try to start off. I would go like my grandfather would do it. He was in 1,983. So that's my grandfather, 1983, 19 83. I was one of them growing up wanting to be a professional athlete, professional baseball player.

I wanted to, you know, take care of my mom and take care of my other, my brothers and stuff. I wasn't married of course at that time. And we, we grew up, I wouldn't say we were poor, but I would say we were knocking on the door. So and the reason that some can say this when I was 16, my dad passed [00:08:00] away early.

So I had to learn to grow up fast. Then I got an older brother, but he's not mechanically inclined. So if. The tire went flat. He had no clue how to change a tire. So I had to do it. And so, and so when I say we were knocking the door, poor mom was raising three boys and her, but sometimes it rained and sometimes our roof leaked and we couldn't afford a roofer.

So on the days they wouldn't write it. And I have them on the roof trying to find the hole or whatnot, trying to patch it the best I can. Winter time, 14 degrees. If our pipes froze, I'm the one that's underneath the house, trying to find out where it's frozen, the pipes burst to fix it. Cause we couldn't afford a plumber again, auto mechanic, same way and whatever else.

So had to grow up a little fast. So because all of that, I wanted to be a professional athlete. [00:09:00] I enjoyed playing baseball. I grew up thinking I was invincible that nothing was going to stop. And that way I could get my mom, that new house, new car, give my brother a new car, used to be a long time ago. They would see, they say, you can, you can get a mail order bride.

I was asking him to do a mail order groom for my mom. That way I could pick my stepdad for her. So it's nice, so, well, all right. So I did actually get a college scholarship to go play baseball and had a couple of professional teams looking at me. I got to play one college game in the fall, the only freshmen starting on the team the very next day again, which was September 11th, people were out on the courtyard, had on the college grounds and was playing actually football, playing tackle football, no helmets, no protective gear, no pads, nothing like that.

But we were playing [00:10:00] tackle football. My team got the ball back. And I remember saying, Hey, we've been out here about two hours. Yeah. It's time for me to get my stuff ready for class. I'm tired. Been out here a couple hours. And so I left the huddle. I got maybe 10 feet from the huddle. Then I heard someone say, we need someone to run the ball.

I stopped turn around and said, all right, I'll come back for one more play. And that play has put me where I'm at today. So talk about that. What happened on the Sunday after the snap, they hand the ball off to me. I did my Heisman trophy move, put my arm out and everything broke. A couple of tackles, scored a touchdown.

Now everyone knows which score touchdown plays over. It's dead. So when I'm turning towards everybody on the field, put the ball down, I see something. My right side, my peripheral vision on my right side. I have no idea what to say. I just say [00:11:00] something. I feel contact about shoulder high, my right side. And then I hear a loud pop and both of us went to the ground.

And that day only one of us returned to her feet. And we'll give you a hint there, Dave. I wasn't one of them that got up. I was the one that laid there, paralyzed instantly, man. Now, when that happened, what was the awareness on the field that people can run into? They think it was just a late tackle and everything was fine.

What happened at that moment? Well, I'm laying on the ground, so I have no idea. I'm conscious the whole time. I'm awake for all of it. I do remember the guy that hit me, that he was all excited. I tackled him, I tackled him. And then I guess someone told me it was a touchdown. Then he goes, what does a touchdown still count?

And so, again, with me thinking I was invincible growing up that way and I was left-handed and again, all this stuff happened on the right [00:12:00] side. I was going to try to get up and fight the guy. Cause I thought that pop was my collarbone and broke his, what I thought at the very beginning. So I went to lift my head up to get up.

And when I lift my head, that's it, my shoulders didn't come up. My arms didn't come up. Definitely feet legs didn't come up. And so put my head back down, try it again, to get up. And then they'll think they say three's a charm. So I took a deep breath for the third time. And then again, nothing followed.

So then I knew I was paralyzed instantly, man. And this was 1983. What year was it? 1983. Yes. 19 September along with 1983. Wow. So at this point, you're in your late teens, early twenties, 19, 19 years old, you have parallel you're paralyzed. And is it [00:13:00] from the waist down the shoulders down? Well, how, how severe is the paralysis shoulders down at that time?

I couldn't move anything for, I couldn't move my arms or anything. And so fortunately, you know, of course. There was one guy there at school. And I wish I could find locate some of these people, but back then, and he was going to school. I don't know to be back in 83. I don't know if it was called paramedics land or an emergency care ambulance, whatever it's called, but he was going to be one back in 1983.

So he was awesome. He was directing everybody or somebody, he says, run to my room and bring back my stethoscope, bring back my blood pressure kit, Ramy, paper, and pad, bring it back a blanket. And people were running. He's taking my posts, trying to keep me calm, taking my blood pressure document and all that.

Then we went ambulance to get there. He gave him all the stuff preparing. And so that was awesome. We, again, I wish I could meet some of these [00:14:00] people from back then and you never know how God works. Maybe on this podcast, there'll be listening. We got listened from over 80 countries. What school did this happen at?

Martin Methodist college. Palasky Tennessee. All right. So if you're an EMT from 1983 and that's the college and that's the incident, you remember, let's reach out to our friend, James and I reconnect you guys. Yeah. I had heard at one point the guy was in Smyrna, Tennessee with the fire department. And I actually reached out to call the Smyrna cause it's only an hour from me where I live.

And so they didn't recall him, anybody at that point like that. So hope, but yeah, I would love to meet up with some of these people just to thank them for what they've done and how they helped back then. And I've definitely some of the nurses when I was in the hospital to meet up with them, see how they're doing this this time.

So, but as I'm laying there on the ground, you know, one, [00:15:00] one thought came to me pretty quick. I started thinking of this, man. I met named JT. What's JT got to do about this story, right? Who the heck is JT. When I was 12, 13, 14 years old, I used to go visit my grandfather in a nursing home and we would get my grandfather out of bed, push him around, outside so we can get some sunlight and stuff.

One day we'd go visit him a new neighbor, moved in a room or two before my grandfather, new neighbors moved in at the nursing home and the guy's name was JT. And he stopped me. He says, Hey bud, come here. Can you help me? And I go in his room and I'm 12, 13, 14 years old. And I said, yes, sir. He said, Hey, can you hold that cup with a straw so I can get a drink of water?

Well, I noticed then his arms is just up against him, like is laying in bed. And then I found out later he was paralyzed from his neck down from a car accident. So now I'm thinking [00:16:00] to JT, how I'm going to be put in a nursing home at the age of 19 years old, it was, I was going through my. And now there's so many questions.

So first question is they take you to the hospital. What was the initial prognosis and bring us to where you are today, how it did turn out and we'll keep going back and forth past and present. So what was the initial prognosis? Did they tell you you're going to get some movement back or were they like it's?

No, the first house would take me to and Pulaski painted. They were too small. Hospital. They wouldn't even confirm to me. I had a broken neck, which are, you know, when you can't move your arms, you can't move, you know, something's wrong. But they, I don't know if they were worried I was going into shock or what they didn't want.

He wouldn't tell me anything. So they ended up taking me and send me to Nashville about two hours away and St. Thomas hospital. And then the [00:17:00] doctor, when he come in one time, finally did a, you know, the x-rays and did a prick test to see if I can feel sharp and Dole. And finally, I asked doctors, well, doc, come on, tell him how bad is it?

He said, it's bad enough. You'll never walk again and possibly not move from your neck down. And this that's pretty bad. Isn't it? He said, yep. Then he comes back and says, now I got to do something to you. And I will tell you right now, it's going to hurt like, hell and we're, we're not going to put you to sleep for it, but we've got to drill holes in your head and put them.

It's like a horseshoe, it's called a tongue and it's got a rope hanging off of it where they're going to put weight on the end of it, to stretch my neck, to try to get the vertebrae to pop back in place. And that's 110 of doc. Why can't you fight your doc? You do what you have to do. And so fortunately they did at least dead in the skin area, but with the bone and everything, you know, they, they didn't do anything.

I hear I'm [00:18:00] hearing these when you're screwing them into the bone, breaking and crushing and stuff like that and feeling the pressure going in. I didn't hang it. 10 pounds of weight off the end of my rope to try to stretch my neck. And that was like that for two weeks.

I can't even imagine what that was like. So what were, when you were laying in there? What was the thought, the emotion, what was the mindset you had? I mean, everybody, even the most positive person in that kind of extreme scenario you know, can struggle. What was it like laying there for those two weeks, for the two weeks.

And that was on, was called a striker frame. And I would lay two hours on my back. Then they would put me with another part of the canvas, the part of the struggle frame and strap me in on the front of me. So now I got, I'm like a sandwich. I got this [00:19:00] top part on me, the bottom part on me strapped me. And then they flip and turned the whole thing over.

And then I lay an hour on my stomach and stare at the ground. So every two, one hours they're flipping me. So I wouldn't get any pressure sores, any ulcers on my body from being in one spot. But for two weeks, Came to real late realization that probably my baseball career was over with. So when we would get that a male ordered a husband for my mom now and could help out.

But at that time, because of growing up thinking I was invincible, I always thought then, then that I would walk again. I just knew that running and playing, like I knew it would be over with. So I had to see what a mindset I was going to walk now, while you were laying there, I mean, like you said, the guy who tackled, you didn't even understand the basics of football.

And were [00:20:00] you thinking, like, did you know the guy, did you not know the guy or you thinking, man, this is dumb actor. You think I'm going to strangle him? What were you thinking about that? You know, I was, I was only there on a unit on the college for two full weeks, so I have no clue who all was playing.

That day I can pinpoint one person there. Now I do believe the guy that hit me, came to the hospital to visit one day. And the only reason I stopped thinking he did only reason. I think he did is one day on the striker frame. They had flipped me and I'm staring at the floor, staring at floor with two guys, come in to visit.

And they told me they were from Martin method is, and they come to say, I was doing, we talked for a little while. I don't really know how much time, 15, 20 minutes maybe. And then they, they said, they're going to head back to, to the, to the college. And so they left. I heard the door shut. Now, here is where I believe the guy that [00:21:00] hit me was there after the door shut there.

Wasn't it couldn't have been no more than 10 seconds. The door opened up again. And I heard someone say, I'm sorry, man. And then the door shut again. Now he never tells me, Hey, I'm going to tackle it. But when the door opened up, I'm sorry, man. And door shuts. I'm assuming it was him. Yeah. That makes logical sense.

Man, that's so frustrating. So like everybody's personality is different. Everybody has a default emotion, you know? How did you, did you get bitter towards him or whoever did it, did you, oh, what was your, like, what were you facing during this time you had physical threat, you had, you know, emotional, your whole life is changing.

So what kind of, what kind of struggles were you going through at this point? And again, I never saw him again and I really [00:22:00] never thought about him anymore. Again, it was, it was taking the hard road now to get physically fit the best I can. Now again, I got hurt on September 11th and we were doing after two weeks on the striker frame, back and forth, back and forth.

And then they finally went into surgery because the vertebrae wasn't going back in place. So they finally went in surgery and to fuse my neck back in place. So the vertebrae did back in place. They took some bone off my hip and put it on each side, the vertebrae, and they took wire and wrapped around there.

We'll hopefully it wired and rusty get rusty or anything. So I got, I got x-rays or you can see wire going in there and then I hear these people today going, yeah, I got some titanium rods put in mine and screws. I'm going to, yeah, you're lucky. We just had wire when I got hurt. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

So what goes on at that point? James you're in bed. You the first author is like wintering. Can't tell you if you're in broken the next [00:23:00] doctor's like, you may walk. I mean, you'll never walk, but you may be able to move your arms. So from the point you were at that hospital to, you know, when you found out, okay, the surgery was successful, what was that timeframe?

It was pretty quick after I get two weeks from injury to surgery and it was pretty quick I had surgery, I was moving my arms. So those and I haven't, that was that might've been able to move in may. I was just too scared thinking. Maybe I would cause more damage if I did move. Because I could feel when they did the prick test sharpen dough, I can feel that, but, but I was moving pretty easy, pretty quick, not easy.

My fingers still don't work today, but then they sent this. This woman could have been no more than four 11. And here I am a 200 pound athlete and she's throwing me loud around like a sack of potatoes as a physical therapist. [00:24:00] He was awesome. I wish I could meet up with her again, and I don't even remember her name.

And she worked with me for three months and I don't remember her name anymore, but I wish I could get out to these people, but she gives, so at one point, the, because being laying on my lane prone for two weeks, for me to be able to sit up, to get the therapy, they said your blood pressure. Cause it's used to go in horizontally.

Now, when you sit up and up and down, your blood may drop, you may pass out. So she had to sit up in bed one time and she goes, now you let us know if you start feeling like you're gonna pass out. I said, oh yeah, I'll do this. And then, and you know, being an athlete, trying to be strong and everything, and all of a sudden she said, she says, how you feeling.

I'm hearing like a train, boom. I was gone and passed out her dignity roar. No, you ready to now passed out. So after that, she put me in a, they got [00:25:00] leggings for a wound from my hips all over them, a feet to help circulation with my legs. And they'd put this binder around my stomach area, probably about eight inches wide to keep the blood pressure from dropping.

And of course they didn't had elbow pads on me. So I get burns on my elbows for moving in bed and this neck breaks. So one day, one day I was ready to go to therapy. And I talked the nurses and taken all that off. I mean, all of them, no, no, no doctor's permission or anything. And I said, I said, if I'm going to be a handicap, I'm going to be a normal handicap.

I don't see nobody else in therapy wearing all this stuff. As I want these hoses off, we'll do the binder off the elbow pads, neck, brace, everything I want. Yeah. Convinced them to take it off, got down to therapy. They wouldn't even touch me. He said, no, you got to get until you get a doctor's prescription, you know, we're not going to touch you.

And he said, you were afraid, you know, your neck may not be healed without that [00:26:00] brace. And, and so I'm just trying to move things along, you know, let's go, let's do some stuff. And so, so got back and everything like that and they put everything back on me again, go book, do my therapy for a day or two later, I talked to him all out, taking it all off again.

And this time I go down therapy and I said, they, the doctor said I can take it all off. And they did therapy with that. Check-in and I hadn't talked to a doctor yet, so I'm trying to move on, kind of move on. Let's go, let's get the quicker we do things quickly. We can move on. And so So then we finally get back upstairs and a doctor comes in to check on him and everything like it.

And they said, look, doc, he's not wearing the loose hose on his leg to find or look at it. Not even Nick Bryson and the elbow pads, they looked that good. He's doing. And I said, yeah, no permission what? Yeah. They freaked out when I told him that funny, and it reminds me of that, that champion mentality. My [00:27:00] daughter today, I was just at the knee doctor with her and she had surgery way less than what you had, but she just had a surgery with her knee.

They put in this thing called an inner brace and she's really not supposed to be doing anything. And she's asking if she can start getting in the pool and he's like, yeah, just be real careful. And she's like, well, I've been swimming and I just was scuba diving and I just beat everybody in a race. And he's like, how far did you go?

And she goes, oh, I don't know, a hundred yards. And the dog. You're the kind of patients to teach us the limitations of what can and can't be done, but you're also the kind of patient that's very like, non-compliant, he's like, so please be careful. But your non-compliance and her noncompliance healed your body and made life better.

And the doctors are learning from you. It's like a human Guinea pig, right? Oh yes. Yes he is. I know there was one episode, one, one thing that I got got depressed, things wouldn't work in. [00:28:00] Couldn't do for myself. I couldn't even feed myself at the time. Cause again, couldn't move mark. Couldn't hold a fork or anything could be.

And I just got to a point where I wanted to do something on my own. Now I don't know why I come up with this stupid idea, but I wanted to, you know, they had these rails, you know, there was nothing in the middle, four different rails ones too, for my legs. So they don't fall off and upper body, but there's a gap in between.

So for some reason, I'm trying to squirm in between that gap just so I can touch the. That's it. I don't know why stupid wanting to touch the floor. And one nurse come in and saw me. She pushed me back in bed. What are you doing? You're going to hurt yourself. I said, I want to do something to say that I did it when she leaves her room, but I see her staying in her shadow.

She standing at the door watching me and here I am trying to go over and touch the floor. She does the game and she says, well, I don't know what to do when you're gonna fall down. What if you break your heel? I said, they're not gonna say I broke my heel. Not the therapist transfer me, broke my hill. Not a [00:29:00] doctor transferred me, broke my hip, not a nurse transforming broke me that I'd say I did it.

And so I don't know why I was stupid, like it, but to touch the floor when there's other things I could have been trying to do. But yeah, I was tired of people doing for me. I wanted to do something. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, the frustration you went from being an athletic athletic guy to being stuck in bed.

So talk about the journey. Where do you go from that? You know, constant physical therapy and the bed to where you start becoming independent. What's that journey look like James? Well, from September 11th to big Halloween nights, you're not gonna believe it's Halloween night. I first started twitching a muscle on my own and my leg on Halloween night.

And I was so excited. I had the nurses call a nurse that would work with me during the day Vicky. [00:30:00] Oh boy. I would love to meet Vicky again. I was in love with Vicky. She was what the doctor ordered Madison, my prescription for my mentality. She was awesome. And so she actually, when they called and told her that I had moved a muscle she came up that night on Halloween.

To spend some time with me and, you know, give me some encouragement and stuff, but yeah, I would love to be able to, but so from there early November, mid November, yeah. Was sent to a rehab in Birmingham called Spain university of Alabama Spain and there for 30 days. And they were supposed to be in at that time, one of the best ones.

So here I am going, I'm moving muscles now and in my legs, but they're the best they're going to have me walking. They didn't do squat on what I wanted. They didn't [00:31:00] work my legs. One time they worked on how to learn to live in the wheelchair, dress yourself as a quadriplegic eat as a quadriplegic, their whole, their whole thing was to teach you to live your life, to be they had no interest.

And they were right. They were right. Again, me wanting to, if y'all are the best, let's get these legs going in. You can see I'm already moving on beforehand. So before I get down here, so let's do something now their job was to try and again, they were right. I w I wouldn't accept it then, but yeah, they were right at the head to do that.

Yeah. There's a fine line though, because like you're saying there, right. Because I know in episode three, we had James Cisco and he had his back broken, told him he was gonna be paralyzed for life, and he ended up getting therapy and he had that muscle too. [00:32:00] And then the gentleman's like, if you can Twitch that muscle, we can get back.

And it took a while. Well, the guy ends up being like an eight time world kickboxing champion. And like he got full mobility back. So obviously it wasn't as severe or maybe, you know, God has performed a miracle for him and you know, it's a different, different life, different purpose. But yeah, I mean, if you can feel that connection, do you still get twitches in your legs?

Do you still get sensation after we got home after I got home from then, from Birmingham to come back home where I live? Well, actually, while I was down there, they doctors there. Groups of doctors told my mom that I, they should put me in a nursing home that would be too much of a burden for them to provide care for, you know, for this.

And fortunately we were hardheaded and did listen, and we started on physical therapy program and it met up with this other doctor from the state. [00:33:00] Department here in Tennessee would come do home health visits once or twice a week. And then he saw the moving that ahead. He gave exercise for us to do, and we did all this.

And we, we got where I was able to stand up without holding on anything. I could walk with a Walker for about 10 minutes, but at 10 minutes, man, I felt like I run a mile and I practice it every day. It never got any better. But yeah, I feel like I felt like I run them out and I tell people, I said, Hey, I made a liar out of him.

The doctor said, I'd never walk in. I made a liar out of him for 10 full minutes. It just the other 23 hours and 50 minutes. He was correct. Yeah. Cause your body was constantly in pain and fighting it and everything fighting all the time. And yeah. So, so we. Yeah had gotten in that was a blessing to get that far because you know, I'm a big guy, so it made it easier for me to stand up, to get in bed, stand up, to get on the [00:34:00] toilet, stand up, get off the toilet, standing up to get him to the shower bench, taking a shower, stand up and get out of there.

Stand up to get in the car and stand up and get out of the car. And instead of me having to try to drag myself back and forth, it was so much of a blessing. But year five, I went to 18 different rehabs and five years trying to find that cure to walk. That's how bad I wanted to walk. And after the last one, I mean, there was one time I drove all the way, 18 hours to Pennsylvania for the doctor to spend 15 minutes with me and told me there was nothing more they can do and driving 18 hours back.

So, I mean, that's, that's how bad I wanted it, but every time I'd come back with, no, you come, as far as you came, we can't help you. And so then. I would just get a little bit depressed because of it. And so after the fifth year I ended up, I was truthful at the beginning, but after things have [00:35:00] settled down and done, it was one of the biggest lies I was telling myself.

So I told my family after the last one, I said, you know, not that I'm putting this walking quitting, but I'm going to put it on the back burner because I'm going to have some type of a life. I need to go to college. I need to finish get a degree. And because I didn't know anybody in wheelchair, spinal cord injuries.

So I didn't know how much they did or didn't do in life. And so I said, but we'll have a chance. I need to get a degree and do something. And so I said, I'm not quitting with the wall, came and put it on the back burner. So I'm working in a college life. Well, that was the biggest lie that I told myself in them.

And again, it was, I was honest about it at that point, but at that point I've never gone to one third. Trying to work on my legs to walk again. It's it's just, yeah. So it was kind of like the moment now talk about for the listeners, you know, [00:36:00] there are people right now struggling with physical tragedy, but the same process for emotional tragedy, physical tragedy or relational trout tragedy, and the depression that all is very similar and ties together.

So what did God teach you? Like how did you learn to overcome the depression and keep a positive mindset and become the professor of perseverance? I try to teach and tell other people just saying ABC, don't go any further. Just do the Michael Jackson, ABC, ABC Italianate, ABC. And then I tell them ABC a.

I is what, what is I, Hey, you know, except adversity, whatever you're going through the quicker, you can accept it the quicker you can move on in life and start haggling. Again. I took that five-year journey, trying to find the cure to walk [00:37:00] again, because I hadn't accepted. You're going to be in a wheelchair.

And he started living in and I was still going to walk again, had that mentality. So a, B, C a accepted versus B begin battling, what do you do to begin the battle? Now you need to find people just going through you're going through and see how they got through it. The great thing nowadays is what at the tip of our fingertips is a wide world weld, and we can find all the information we want to find on how people got through whatever they're going through.

Finding an organization, finding association that helps with it. Find a mentor, a coach, counselor. Preacher, whoever that's a great podcast go to. Yes. Right. The podcasts are remarkable people and you can find great, great tools from there. That's right. And then see, now, now you've got all this information now, see, let's go and conquer the [00:38:00] challenge.

Let's take all this information you've learned and now it's, , it's instilling into us and go out and is conquer what's happening and move on in life. The best that we can. And then how long did it take you to, were you always a positive guy or did it take some time to develop into this and to get that mindset?

I think I've always been positive and, and again, it goes back to the, the invincible mentality. Cause there's times I should've quit doing things. Even today, this things ought to be quit, quit instead of wasting my time on it. And then finally it, cause I think it's really going to happen, you know? And finally you go, well, it's been five years or eight years or six years I painted.

That's not going to happen. Well, let's move on. Not that, that was the only thing I was focused on, but I mean, other things focus on life, but finally you go, man, this one, I really going to help out like a doula. Like I warning to let go and stop that and move on and get some money and get something else [00:39:00] to do.

Yeah. And there's always that fine line between that also, like when do you quit and move on? And when do you keep persevering? Because a lot of times, right when you're about to quit something, I found that's like the moment that if you just endure greatness occurs. So for the listeners, how do you help people understand?

Okay, this is a battle it's not worth fighting. Go put your energy towards something else. Or no fight till you die, or when w how do you define and explain the difference to me, which you, what you're talking about to me, it's the dangling carrot at the end for the mule to keep chasing after, until he finally gets that carrot at the end of the hard work.

And so, I mean, that's hard, that's hard. I don't know if I can tell anybody when's the time to quit. That's something they got to come up with. But to me is when the results are not changing, like here, I'm walking with a Walker for 10 [00:40:00] minutes rarely got up to 15 minutes and even then he also wore out.

And so, I mean, it'd been different if at 10 minutes built up to an hour and then maybe an hour, it got me another two hours, then you say, continue on. But when it, 10 minutes of staying in walking was just 10 minutes and you felt like you'd run them out every time. Not that you quit that. Cause at 10 minutes of standing is great for your skeletal muscles, skeleton, the blood circulation, but to put more time into it, to think you're going to get more that's when you need to be real about that then.

Awesome. Now what about through your journeys through life? You know, what kind of path did it bring you on now? You're going to college. You're playing baseball. So where does name's after again, after that five years that I begin was an honest statement, but which turned out to be one of the biggest lies [00:41:00] to myself.

But when I finally accepted that it's time to move on this, get a college degree and stuff. Getting my teaching degree, I got my  degree bachelor's degree master's degree and got into teaching and coaching coach day, a state championship of a girl's basketball team. Baba was also helping coach the high school.

I taught seventh graders. And so, but also helping with the high school baseball team. So I got to do things that I was enjoyed to do. I learned early, early with the high school, with the baseball, that it was way too much problems trying to get me on and off those fields they're not accessible. So when I got into coaching basketball, once you get in doors, the hallways are all flat, so they made things easier.

So, I mean, that was another thing I had to finally say. Is it worth me going to these [00:42:00] baseball games and have these kids? You know, when I was a kid, you know, high school athletes, Pushing me up and down all over the field on the ground, on the grounds, off the ground, in the dugout, back to my car. And then none of them complained.

None of them said, I'm tired of doing nothing. At least they didn't around me. They made a hundred on their own breath, but it's always sort of there. I had to make a decision. It just wasn't worth it to me to do all this on the baseball. That's why I went in and just did a basketball at that time. And so, yeah, so I got into that.

And then after winning the state championship and my basketball team, we were just blessed with good athletes out of the 12, 14 years. We went to the championship game in our county. 12 times. We didn't win them all, but we probably wanted half of them and finished runner up half of them. I gave him one, one the state one time.

And [00:43:00] so, well, it was funny that me and the other coach, we were who we were kiddingly kiddingly called the pat summit of middle school basketball. So that was fun. Awesome. And then when worked in my while I was teaching and coaching, working on my doctorate degree, because I was ready to get out of teaching and coaching and you use the doctor, agree not to go teach anywhere else, but to get out hoping those credentials opened more doors for me to get out and speak, to talk to people, help them.

And then years later comes YouTube and podcasting and all this comes to the company.

Okay. So I want to go back to something, because this intrigues me about your story. There's a cycle of grief and depression and anger, and you know, there's a cycle. And [00:44:00] normally most people go through a stage of anger and even hate when something like this happens. And it's really intriguing me that you haven't mentioned, even when I was kinda like probing, you didn't really mention you or angrier or upset with the individual that broke your back.

So is that something you just, how you're built? Is that something you learned from your parents? Like, Hey, why dwell on it? Because it's not going to do you any good, because that really is a remarkable. Characteristic, because most people need to work through that anger and hate so they can get to the healing and somehow you just zip skip by it.

So how did that all happen? How do you think that occurred? Because you understand it and I don't know if you agree or disagree or most people would go through that. Jerk broke my back. Oh yeah. They get, you know, they get that five stages of grief. Right. And one of them is anger and I don't get me wrong.

I've thrown up from my plating [00:45:00] glass. Now I can't throw it like a used to beforehand. When I throw now, then it goes about a foot from me and I usually hit my own leg or foot. So I don't throw things anymore, but I really, honestly, I not mad at the guy. And it may be, it may be that my life has turned out a heck of a lot better than we ever thought.

And. That might be it. I mean, I hope the best for this guy I've ever made him again. I would tell him, man, I hope you didn't go through a big grieving and, and feel guilty. And I'm letting you know that my life turned out better or whatever. I mean, I've been over in Kamora islands off the east coast of Africa as a, as an ambassador for disabled people, trying to get other people out of the out of their houses are disabled and went over with 15 wheelchairs, trying to help them get out timid who didn't think I'd be over in Africa or Kamora islands as an ambassador [00:46:00] for disabled people.

You know, they ended up being in Paris, I mean, over in Germany. And so who'd ever thought that and impulsive it's made the best candidate. I mean, I get mad at things. Don't get me wrong, but for some situations I probably used to got mad earlier when I couldn't pick up a pencil to try to write as good. My fingers wouldn't work, you know, but no, for someone else, I, I don't get mad at other people.

And it's, life's too short for that. I'm not eating busting a a gasket for over, for over stressing out. So, yeah. And that's the right mindset. I'm just trying to figure out how you got there, because if we can reverse engineer, how you got there, then all of us with that anger can learn how to overcome it.

So, but let's talk about that before manager now, I was one of them. I was ready to fight and again, because I thought [00:47:00] it was invincible, but I was ready to fight and got mad at the drop of a hat. If that's how I'm going to be on a ball field, if someone. Did something and I wouldn't didn't like it. So we got a hit off of me and I didn't like it the next time up there getting the ball in the back and they're back.

So, but yeah, but I don't have, I don't, I can't, I don't know if I really had that. I had to learn to be patient. I had learned to be patient from, from things from all this. Yeah. Well, that's, that is remarkable. So let's go on then. So you've gone through your life. You've learned so much. And like you said, you got these great opportunities that other people may not have and you know what?

The baseball players are a diamond doesn't you get to do work with purpose to help others encourage people. And that's just amazing. So. The professor of perseverance. Talk about that title. And if you had a message to convey to [00:48:00] our audience, what is that message? What are you trying to communicate?

Professor perseverance. I got to give it to my man, John Bentley, John Bentley. We were in the national speakers association together and he knew that I wanted to, my speaking topic, niche was going to be perseverance. And John's the John one, Dave, we'd known as here for months. And I was in John one day. He was behind me.

He goes, Hey, professor perseverance. I'm ignoring him and everything, professor perseverance. And if I turn and say, John, you're talking to me, he said, yeah, you're the professor of perseverance. I say, what, what do you mean? He said, well, you got a doctorate degree. Yeah. So your professor, he said you were talking about perseverance.

Yeah, peer to professor perseverance. And so that's how that tag came. And I tell people, I got a picture, we got a Popeye's restaurant where I live and one day I was going through and the pop for pop [00:49:00] was lit up. But the eye S eyes was not lit up for some reason, something that breaker wouldn't own or whatever.

So I pulled over and took a picture and with a pop lit up with eyes nut, and I said, look, eating Popeye's is supporting the professor or perseverance. Nice. And that's a sign, right. Literally to sign. Yeah. So that's how I came up with that. And from there. So, and then you know I mean, I wouldn't have to pick mess that was tell people is, you know, we, we are the, we are the worst in limiting self limitation on ourselves more than the outside.

You know, people were afraid to start a new job cause they don't know what to expect. But you know, people were afraid to start because someone says, what if you fail? What if you don't do good? What if you as these other people outside, but we want to think we're blaming them. We don't want to try because [00:50:00] they discouraged me.

No, we're the biggest self limitation of all, because we think what if they're right? What if I don't wait? What if I fail? What if I succeed? And then I don't know what to do after that. You know? So I think we need to be open and go try. If it doesn't work out, it didn't work out. You don't know unless you try it.

And so I think that we need to move in. As long as we're moving forward in life to whatever satisfaction you may believe. I said a Tempe, you don't have to go a hundred miles an hour forward. You can move forward at a snails. And those same people say, well, I feel like I'd take two steps forward, but I'll fall back one.

It's awesome. That means you still one step into good. Yeah. Yup. I agree. It. So and even, even if you go to step forward and fall back three, [00:51:00] what did you learn from that? What did you learn from the experience? And then you're going to make a decision. Is it worth the, still trying to go after what I'm going?

Can I change my goal to, to go around whatever I was trying to need to get to the ultimate destination? Or do I say that it's not worth it? Let me do something else. Now here you have decisions to make. So what do you recommend to the listeners? How do you start practicing? So somebody has a self-limiting belief.

They're, self-sabotaging, they're hearing the demons in the head, whatever you want to call it, but it's keeping them from moving forward. What are the steps for them to start getting rid of that, taken that you know, that chunky monkey and thrown it in the ocean. When it drown start a vag, first thing you have to do is you got to evaluate, what's controlling your [00:52:00] thoughts.

Is it the music you listening to? Are you listening to bad messages? Are you watching bad movies? Now? I'm not saying all this stuff is bad, but if it's controlling you to keep you in a negative thought, are you with friends that are constantly whining and crying about stuff? And then you jump in with them.

Now I'm not saying kick your friends out for the rest of your life, but you may have to go, Hey, you know, I'm trying to change. I'm trying to be more positive. I need to, you know, we need to limit our time so I can build myself up. And if they can't understand, you're trying to better yourself. Maybe they don't need to be in your.

I got this one friend that we've known each other for over 40 years. We met when we were 12 years old, I went through a cancer scare, thought I had cancer and I called to tell him about it. And the first thing got his mouth is, oh man, why I ain't ate in a week. If someone's not feeding me, I can't go do anything else.

And [00:53:00] I went to go try to get food the other day. And they just slammed the door in my face. It was all went to him, nothing about, Hey, I'm sorry, what can I do to help you? Not that I was looking for that, but it told me I need to have positive people around me during this time. And to get that positive vibe I needed to take positive.

I listened to positive affirmations read positive stuff. Limit. I mean, I re really limit myself off the news because man, they'll, they'll spend, you know, 25 minutes of what's going wrong with the world. And then, Hey, we got this minute and a half of this feel-good story, you know, we ought to be building ourselves up with twenty-five minutes of good stuff it's happening in the world.

And then maybe come back and say, yeah, there's a murderer. It's in the end, the town, or here's a picture of him. He'd be saying, I'll take your local police. You know, whatever it is, you [00:54:00] know, I think they're going the wrong route. I couldn't agree more. And I think, you know, you are what you eat the old saying, but that's not just food.

It's the food of the mind, the fruit of the soul. I mean, relationally, whatever. Feed ourselves. We become whatever we practice, we get good at it. So I think your advice is right on to our audience. And I want to add to the, you know, I always was in a lot of abusive relationships and once you get into abusive relationships and I'm not just talking about men and women, even just your friends, like you're saying, and once you get in that habit, you almost find it a sick comfort in it.

And sometimes you have the fear of not wanting to be alone, you know? Okay. They're not a great friend, but I don't want to lose that friend. But think of it this way. If you're already sick and tired and you got to run five miles, okay, that's bad enough, but it's better to run alone than it is [00:55:00] to run with a 200 pound monkey on your back.

You want to be dragging you down. Yes. Yeah. And, and talking trash in your ear while you're doing it. So if you have toxic relationships, I agree with James. And I'm not saying, I don't think you are either. You're not saying like. My family member is always negative. So I'm never going to talk to him again.

But what you're saying is you're going to make it clear to them that they're negative. You love them, but you have to have limited time and you can't allow yourself to be damaged anymore. And if they don't understand, that's their problem, not yours. Is that what you're communicating, right? Exactly. You don't have to kick them out for the rest of your life and not speak.

You can still be nice to them. Hey, how you doing? Hey, you should've been here when I was doing this. I know you would enjoy it. But once they're start own their negative path, you go, Hey, I gotta go. Now. I appreciate everything you've done for me. I didn't come back in a week or two a month and do the whole process over.

[00:56:00] I used to tell there's three types of people we should have in life. One, should we, we should have a person in life. That's gonna be the, the, tell us a to tell us point blank truthful. What's wrong with you? Okay. Do you like what I'm wearing that makes you the ugliest looking fat, red tomato, like the shirt I'm wearing today.

All right. And they're not trying to hurt your feelings, but they're letting you know, you do look bad when you go out there. Other people gonna see it. And now you may not want to hear that, but then you do need someone in your life that you can say, be as honest as you want to with me. And I'm going to be as honest back to you.

Alright. And you can do that, but then you also need the people around you. That's, that's, they're going to be there for everything. And they may even give you though a white lie, you know, Because because they, you know, they don't want to hurt your [00:57:00] feelings. And so James, in that red shirt, you, you, you really stand out today, you know?

And so yeah, so, but you need so much point blank. Taylor is one others. They just love you. And they're going to, I guess they may lie to you, but they're doing it out of the best for you. All right. And then I used a Katie lay, but I am serious like this. You may have to have that person that will lie to you and tell you that that's the best looking red shirt I've ever seen anything like that before.

And the reason is the sad thing is, is their self-esteem is so low. They want to be around you to help build them up. And no reason that they can do that, they think that I have to lie to you tell you how great you are to keep you there. And, but it keeps your confidence up. It keeps them going and you are setting a standard for them.

But then you got that guy that that's going to point like tell you, no, it's [00:58:00] ugly. Get it out of here. You're going to have to have a combination of people like that for us to move on. Yeah. I mean the truth tellers, we need the people who are encouragers, we need the people who are liars, you know, when you were describing that, I was thinking of the, I remember the Michael Jackson documentary he did before he died.

And he was just surrounded by yes, men. And they're just telling them how great he is. And then you think of all these fighters and they're surrounded by yes, men who just straight up lied on and it does elevate them. So I agree with what you're saying. It elevates them to exceptional performance. But at what cost.

So I'd have to think and pray about the liars. Like, do we want them in our life? So if we were going to get to an exceptional standard, I think they do help. But for a long-term sustainable success, that's where I'm not [00:59:00] sure yet. What are your thoughts? Well, they may be the dependent. What they're in line to you about again, you got to look at it again.

It's a two-way street, even though, cause they want to be with you and they're afraid you're going to say something wrong and you're going to say, get out of here, leave me alone. And so they're doing it to try to be on your good side because they enjoy your company. They're getting from you and they're wanting to try to be like you.

So, and again, there are people in that, those I don't recommend are the ones that they're going to lie to you because they're, they want to get built up and then they're going to take everything you got to give them, give to them. And then when something happens, you don't have it. They're out the door.

And maybe that's what I was thinking of a little bit different, not the people who want to be around you, but the people want to just use you. So, okay. I see the differentiation there. How many, how many, how many athletes you hear? He's got this big entourage, Vince young. It played for Tennessee Titans a couple of years.

Hey, just big entourage. Hey, this [01:00:00] big contract. I forgot how to $60 million, you know, first year stuff like that. And they said he had his entourage. He paying to keep him up and going to have to keep people away from him and everything. But when his money ran out, his entourage ran out as well. And that is pathetic.

How these people, when his, when he didn't have the money in the football career, I mean, if I was one of them, I wouldn't have been in, I wouldn't have been in the crowd anyway, but if I was one of them, I go, man, you know, you helped me. With some much, let me give you a hundred thousand back to you for, for all you did to meet over, he went bone dry and had filed bankruptcy.

They left him. They didn't give his money back to him. Yeah, I know. I always try to teach my kids growing up. It's like your friends, tell you what you want to hear your true friends, tell you what you need to hear. And even if somebody is pissed at you for speaking the truth, just say it in love and move on because [01:01:00] it's, they're going to love you later, but it is sad to watch people with these, just they blow hundreds of millions of dollars and they're just used.

So let's get back though, to the point of the episode where we got awesome. We're going deep and wide and hidden side items, but let's start with James again. So from your birth to where you are today, did we miss anything significant that you want to talk about? Or do you want to transition now into where you are today and where you're going?

No, I think they were just ready to move on. Okay, good. I want to just make sure we covered everything. So where is Dr. James today and where are you heading? My main thing now is try to help people as much as possible just to get through life. We're all struggling with something we're not all in the same place, but there's a way we can provide hope and not step on toes.

And that's, that's the thing with the podcast that I do [01:02:00] is the center of the years is to help people get through a better day. And what's the name of your podcast? Professor? A perseverance podcast. All right. And they can find that an apple and all the big directors. Yes. I'm waiting for, send me one named Joe Rogan check checks.

Yeah, that would be nice for you too. Hey, well, my goal with this podcast, just tell as many people as we can about just how much God loves him, help each other grow, and then just move forward. If money comes, it comes, but it's not. I know what you're saying. Like money is a tool and I'll gladly accept it.

But for the podcast, I've never pursued it on my I'm looking for funds other ways, but Hey, if God brings it through the podcast, we'll take it too. As long as we're helping people and glorifying him, there was a God knew growing up and he found a $20 bill one day and he says, man, look, God's blessed me. I said, or [01:03:00] devil is tempting you, oh, what do you mean?

But it depends what you do at that $20. If you use it to get a pair of shoes or go buy somebody or something to eat and spend it for yourself as well. I said, but if you turn around and get drugs or something, then you're going to find that God didn't give it to you for that. And dude ended up eventually buying dope with it.

And so, yeah, absolutely. Don't don't. You were blessed, you were tempted and you failed. Yeah. I love that. You said that because how many people, you know, people will call themselves Christians every day, but they're not Christ-like. And they say, God told me to do this, or God told me to do that. And I was like, damn, that's how I got it all.

That's your own lustful self you liar. I'm like, don't drag God in the mud. I'm like, he's perfect. And holy and loves you. You don't make him look bad. Cause you're an idiot. So I, even myself, I cringe when I say, yeah, I feel like God saw me do something like most of the time, I'm just like, this is what I'm going to do because I don't want to [01:04:00] blame God for my face.

That's right. So cool, James. Well, we're going to put all these links in the show notes. How can our listeners get in touch with you if they want to just talk, if they want to pursue coaching, if they're like, man, I've been depressed and in a whole you're positive. How do I get, how do I get you to verbally slap me around and get me back up?

Google professor of perseverance. Or Dr. James Purdue and I'll come up all over the place for you. So, and is the best way to reach you through the website? Well, you DM me on Facebook or Instagram, Twitter on my website, again, professor of perseverance.com via there's contact page. So however you want to, I don't own my podcast.

Professor perseverance, go into any description of Amy. When you want to say my phone number is in there along with a email. So, however, [01:05:00] however you want to find me awesome. Well, James, it's been a true pleasure and honor. You are a remarkable guy. I'm still blown away for the, the positive energy and how you can keep just staying focused and moving forward and picking yourself back up.

Anything before we close this episode that you want to share to the listener as a final thought, something we missed, you know, something you're like, you know, if you're struggling, start with this, anything else? The biggest thing now I want to mention is I have not been where I'm at and could be being gotten where I'm at.

If it wasn't for three components, one God in my life to God put me with the family that I need that was sacrificed so much for me to be successful. I mean, he knew way before I was born. This was family I needed to be with to help me in years to come. [01:06:00] And the third thing again, you're supporting cast friends that are in your life forever.

Fringing your life from one chapter one season or your church. School, you go into whatever that's going to help you stay positive and continue on again and let like you, you talking about the positive. So, but Hey, it may be, may be because I'm a firm believer, single mothers are the strongest mothers that they're raising these kids without dad in there.

And they may be that I've been so strong-willed strong, hard hardheaded and positive because of watching her all these years, raising us. Yeah. That is a good point because children, a lot of our personalities when we grew up is learned behavior. And if you just saw your mom. Hey, this is life let's dig in and go make, make the most of it.

And that's, that can be a huge, huge influence on you. I'm blessed right now that my mother's 81 with [01:07:00] some dementia problems and she's been able to move in with me. Maybe have me to be able to help her instead of putting her in one of the homes. I'm not saying that may not have to later on, but at least I can help her.

She's not in her own house struggling. And so I'm blessed to be able to return some of it back to her. Oh, that's so beautiful. That's so beautiful. And that's a hard thing to deal with. I'll be praying for you. I'll say a prayer for you. Yeah. I had a friend. You keep talking about this and hint on it.

Like you said, you know, your God, your family, your supporting cast. And I had a friend named Diego and he was like, you can't learn to fly if you're always saying you can't learn to fly like an Eagle, if you're always hanging out with the turkeys. So if people are listening. I don't care who it is. If they're a bunch of morons and goofballs are negative and just jaded or dirty and corrupt get rid of them.

It's not worth being in your life. Love them. Be there if they need you, but don't want them use you and don't want to bring you [01:08:00] amen brother. Yeah. James has been a pleasure. My friend, ladies and gentlemen stick around for another couple of minutes. We're going to have a special offer for you. And then James brother.

You truly are a remarkable man. Thank you for being here today. And if there's anything we can do for you, please let us know again. Thank you for the opportunity. Oh, okay. It's been a true honor. Thank you. My friend and ladies and gentlemen, I'll see you in just a moment for a special offer. 

Part 5 Dr James Purdue Special Offer: [01:08:25] Was that not remarkable. Ladies and gentlemen, I am so thankful for James and his time that he shared with us and insights and just positive attitude. And now James is back with us for another minute. He has a special offer for you because he loves you and he wants to see you heal and grow. So, James, go ahead and tell us about your remarkable office, David.

We know that everybody's struggling with something going on and a lot of us want to live in the past. No, I can't do this because of what I did 20 years ago, what I did 30 years ago, what would I did 40 years ago? So I can't move on in life [01:09:00] because I won't yeah. Go with the past. So if you go to my website, professor of perseverance.com and scroll down a little bit, you'll see there's a free mini course and a free ebook.

And it's taught, both of them are titled your past. Doesn't have a future, but you do create your future. Go get your free mini course for ebook and enjoy it. And let me know if you, what you've learned from it and then how it helped you and how it can help you in the future. Oh, man. Thank you. I'm excited.

I'm personally going to check it out. I'm looking forward to it. I have a real big problem with just not being haunted by the past. You know, we've all had, like you said, we all have issues. We all have trauma. We all have tragedy, but for some of us, our personalities, it's hard to let go. So I'm going to check it out personally.

All right, lady, you go, huh? Sometimes it's an ego thing. I'm not sure what it is for me, but if you think that's from talking to me, if that's what you're seeing then yeah. [01:10:00] I mean, I do, but I know from others. Oh yeah. I know. I'm trying to identify it. So I'm not proud. I want to know. I think all of us have a degree of pride, but man, I need a punch in the face sometimes.

So if that's what it is, I need to go back and search my soul and pray about that. But ladies and gentlemen, I hope you enjoyed this episode of the podcast. And like our slogan says, don't just listen to this great information, but do it each day. Repeat it so that you can have a great life for this. And for attorney com, I'm David Pascoe alone.

That was Dr. James Purdue. We love you and we'll see you next week for another remarkable episode. Ciao.

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