Finding Hope and "AMO" after years of Alcoholism, Drug Use, Self Sabotage, & Wandering | Bo Bissett

"You are your own best healer." - Bo Bissett

EPISODE OVERVIEW: 

Have you heard the one about the young boy who had a brother, and he immediately felt animosity and jealousy? You know, the one where his parents got divorced too, then years later he realized what a powerful negative impact it had on him? This week you're going to hear our guests remarkable journey of out of alcoholism, drug use, and self-sabotage. How he hit rock bottom, and is now on his way to the top. This is not only an entertaining episode with cool bonus content at the end, but there are hidden gold nuggets and life lessons all along the way. From better sleep, to a better life, this episode will teach you about yourself, inner healing, and what "AMO" is. Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the Bo Bissett story!

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Bo Bissett spent the first 4 decades of his life punishing, mutilating, demeaning, and destroying himself. Somewhere along the line, he realized those daily practices only made things worse, and despite his wishes to not move forward, he found his way. That's when he stopped trying to bury himself and, instead, started living.

It sounds cheesy, but YOU are the reason he's here. Most people wouldn't have survived what he put himself through. He believes the hard lessons he's learned from his pain can help you out of yours. And that's why he's here today: to show you the way.

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Finding Hope and "AMO" after years of Alcoholism, Drug Use, Self Sabotage, & Wandering | Bo Bissett 

Hello friends. Welcome to this week's episode of The Remarkable People Podcast, the Bo Bissett story. This week you're going to hear about how Bo from a young child had a brother and immediately felt animosity and jealousy. Then you're gonna see the impact that a divorce had on him and how he had no idea consciously of what was going on, but the combination of so many things in his young life led him to rebellion.

Alcoholism and drug use. Then when he gets into college, His career and then all the way through a couple years ago, how this all played out and just destroyed his life from self-sabotage because he didn't feel self-worth. So this is gonna be an entertaining episode. You're gonna get to hear Bo's story.

We're gonna go through it chronological. But remember, stick through the whole thing cuz there's hidden gold nuggets all along the way. And hopefully all of us can connect with something, apply it to our lives and grow and become better people from it. So Bo's story is a remarkable journey. He's gonna talk about how he even stumbled on [00:02:00] greatness in cycling to help him come out of the funk.

And then he talks about how he found. Amo and you're gonna learn what that is and you're gonna learn some of the techniques and things Bo used to not only heal himself, but how he's helping others now heal as well. So I'm David Paon. I'm so thankful you're here. This is the Bo Beset story and I hope you love it.

And you not only listen to this great episode, but like our slogan says, you do it, you repeat the good things each. So you can have a great life in this world and an attorney to come. So at this time, let's hang out with our friend Bob Bassett.

Copy of INTERVIEW RPP 113 Bo Bissett Finding Hope and AMO after Years of Alcoholism Drug Use Self Sabotage and Wandering-2: Hey brother. How are you today, Bo? I'm great. How are you doing, Dave? Man, I'm fantastic. I love to hear it. Yeah. We are just telling our listeners just a little bit about you and your [00:03:00] remarkable story. So at this time, we're just gonna jump in and we're gonna go chronologically through your life from where was Bo born, what was your upbringing like?

And then just work step by step through whatever you feel like sharing that's relevant to who God made you, the man today. And then we're gonna transition to the end. Where's Bo going? So now that you helped us. How can we help you? Sound good, right? Right. Yeah. Sounds great, man. And first of all, before we get started, I just wanna thank you for sharing your platform with me.

It's I'm very, very grateful, so thanks Dave. Oh, man. No problem. We, our, our community's fantastic. So if you're listening, you know how it works. We links to everything Bo and I talk about in the show notes. But reach out to Bo connect with him, and at the end we'll give you all of his contact information.

And then more than anything, don't just listen to what Bo tells you today, but do the good stuff. Repeat it each day so you can have a great life in this world. And more importantly, an attorney to come. So Bo at this time, brother, let's hear your [00:04:00] story, . Oh, let's see. Well, I was I was, I grew up in a small town in North Carolina on the coast, a little town called New Bern.

It was the, actually it was the first, the first capital of North Carolina before they, they moved to Raleigh. But yeah, I grew up, I mean, I grew up as a, a. Upper middle class white kid in a small town in North Carolina, right? I mean, mom and dad were, you know, normal people. My dad was a finance guy, my mom was this what do you call it?

A house mom or housewife or whatever you wanna call it. And yeah, I was pretty, I I thought I was pretty normal. I dunno, I definitely look back at myself now and I'm like, I'm not normal, but who is right? That's right man. Normal is, there's a standard of, you know, basic fundamental humanity, but yeah, exactly.

That is custom. God made. Exactly. No, I so great. But yeah, [00:05:00] I mean, I just, you know, I grew up a normal kid and my parents, I think the big thing, I had a lot of anger when I was a kid, and I realized after doing the work learning the work that I do now, that and uncovering the emotional trauma that I'd that had programmed or that my subconscious program, that I had a problem when my second, when my brother was born.

So I was the first born and he was the second born. And I felt like, like he stole my thunder right? Or not stole my thunder, but basically he stole the attention away from me. Right. And after that, I started feeling worthless. Like I wasn't, like, I wasn't enough and like I was trying, always trying to please my parents.

And that was yeah, that set up a lot of a lot of feelings of being worthless and not being enough. And which later translated into, you know, some of the other stuff that I did. But at 12, around 12, my parents divorced. [00:06:00] And that again, I've learned that when my parents divorced they sat my brother and I down in the house in their bedroom and they told us, you know, mom and I, we, your mom and I love each other, but I was like, oh shit, what's, what's going on now?

So then they told us they were getting divorced. I stood up, ran out of the room, outta the house and into the woods and, you know, stayed there the rest of the day. Right. And that set off my pattern of, of running. So it was just, yeah, go ahead. Oh no, no. I'm sorry. We stopped along the way during the podcast that way we try to unpack as much as we can, cuz myself, listeners, it helps us connect and understand.

Yeah, of course. So up until that point where your parents called you in the bedroom, did they argue in front of you? Did they, was it a No, it was normal, like. It was like, well, that wasn't normal, but they were, they were cordial with each other, but they never showed any love. Like, I never saw my parents kiss or maybe hug [00:07:00] about it.

Yeah. I don't even remember that. So it was very, yeah, they were not, not a very loving, loving parents, but I didn't, I just thought it was normal. Right. That. Yeah, at that point, that was your only frame of reference. So that was what you thought the model normal was. Yeah, and I was like, and even, I mean today and looking back, like I never, I don't have anything to blame my parents on.

They were doing the best they could. And so, you know, I think we yeah, but that was my reaction. My reaction to their, you know, us. Them telling us that they were getting divorced, I ran out and that, that was my pattern, that was my reaction. That set up instances further on in life that I would, that would recreate, you know, when I felt anxious, when I felt angry.

When I felt uncomfortable, I would just run. And most people, you know, most people, you know, run from a job or like, I got to the point where I was running country, I was leaving, I was leaving countries and move, moving to other countries. We'll get there. Just keep telling your story. You're 12 years old and you run on the [00:08:00] woods and keep going.

Yeah, I came back. Yeah, I came back that night. Cause I mean, I'm 12 and like I didn't like, I'm 12 and bored else I supposed to go right. So I got hungry and I went home and then yeah, I just dealt with it. In my teens, I've really got into drugs and alcohol. Really heavy. I got in trouble when I was a teenager.

I got into, yeah, some legal trouble. And then, yeah, when I was 19, my first, my first year in university, I wrecked my car. I was, I was, thankfully, I was the only person in the car, but I was drunk driving. And I, yeah, I was going a hundred miles an hour, ran off the road, flipped the car, crashed through a telephone pole.

And on the way to the hospital I had a near death experience with my grandfather. Dead grandfather called showed up and told me it wasn't my time that, you know, I needed to go back. Two years later, I did [00:09:00] the same thing. I was drunk. I was skateboarding home after after a fraternity party got hit by a car, almost lost my right leg.

And then let's see, I graduated, finally got outta school with, with most of my body, you know, pieced together. . Yeah. And, and then Yeah. And then, then I fell in love with I reignited my love affair with cocaine. And at that point I was like, I just, cuz I was making some pretty good money and I was like, all right.

Twice I put my parents through like, you know, more, actually more than twice, two really big times with both those accidents. I put them through the, you know, me and my drinking issues and I was like, dude, like now I'm all cooked up and like, I can't tell him, man, I cannot tell him. So I basically, I gave everything away.

I bought a ticket to a one way ticket to Europe. And on the way to the airport, Brooke gave my brother the keys and I was like, this is your car ran. Do whatever you want with it. I'm [00:10:00] out here. And yeah, I just took off. So when you were a teenager mm-hmm. , you said you were angry and you started medicating with drugs and alcohol.

Mm-hmm. . Is that when you started experiment with cocaine too? Or was that when you got No, no, no. That wasn't until, no, that cocaine wasn't until university. Okay. And then when you were messing around with drugs and rebellion and as a teenager, did you realize at that point, what were you thinking you were doing and why?

Like, what was your thought process? Do you remember? Back then I was just I know now that I was just trying, like, I was just, I was self-sabotaging, like I was punishing myself, right. I didn't think I was good enough. So I was using alcohol. I was using everything I could get my hands on to, to punish myself, to, just to, to hurt myself.

And I, I think at that age, I don't know really how like how I felt about it. I do real, I do remember being [00:11:00] real what's the word I'm looking for? Not re rebellious, but not rebellious, like kind of like screw you, I guess, you know, is the best way. I can't think of the word I'm looking for, but yeah, it's basically like, you know, the finger to the world like, You know, screw everybody.

I don't care. I'll do whatever I want. So, so now did your parents or friends try to intervene or were they like, that's just Yeah, my parents. Yeah, both my parents did. And like, I was always like I mean, I was always in trouble. They were always trying to ground me, but it never worked. I would sneak out and, you know, but I, then I did get in some legal trouble and I was on, I was in prob probation for two years, so I couldn't, you know, there's, and my, and the, my junior and senior year, like, I couldn't participate in a lot of the stuff that my friends were doing.

And I was just like, it was, it was, it was a pretty bad But I mean, I, I [00:12:00] never went to prison, so that was good. But yeah. Now when this was going on though, and you see it escalating, were there any signs to you back then? Like, man, I need to get some help, or was it just fuck the world and, yeah, pretty much.

Yeah. Screw the world. That's basically what it was like. I didn't, like, I didn't care. And now I'm like, now know, I'm looking at, you know, the people that I knew, you know, that were on the same path or, you know, you see people in the news and you know, you know, why is that person doing this and that, you know, it's just, it's, it's our emotional stuff that we're hanging onto, right?

And it's like, you know, a lot of us are moving and, you know, or are operating in a, on a, a system that we've, that we've programmed ourself that is like just making us do these, you know, these behaviors, right? And, and a lot of us you know, unconscious, right? So it's like, you know, the person that drinks themself you know, stupid every night, you know, do they really want to be doing that?

No. You know, but it's a tool they use [00:13:00] to, you know, to self sabotage or punish themselves to you. You know, so are the same with food, right? A lot of people, you know, a lot of people with food, addictions the same thing. Right. You know, it's not, they don't, you know, they don't, they don't gain a hundred pounds because they wanna be, you know, you know, fat and, you know, overweight and unhealthy.

You know, they just using that as, as a way to, to escape, a way to punish himself. So, yeah. So now did you, when you got, when you got, you don't have to go into details, you can, but when you got arrested and you got in trouble mm-hmm. , was there a point where you thought to yourself like, man, I'm out of control?

Or was it, man, these people, it's their fault? What kind of attitude were you more on the, a moment of realization or more of the narcissist? No, I had, I had some I did have some moments of realization, but I was still like, I kind of felt like [00:14:00] As far as like, you know, the stuff that I did, like, I, I I had stolen some stuff as, as a teenager.

And so that was I mean, I realized like, man, I was just, that was so stupid. But as far as like, people telling me what I can do, like, I hated, I hated that. Right? I hated the, you know, oh, you know, you have to take drug tests and you have to you, you're not allowed to have alcohol in your system or anything.

I mean, I was, I was a teenager anyway, so, I mean, you're not supposed to be drinking, you know, in America below 21 anyway. But, you know, but the thing is like, you know, my, my friends were doing that and I was being told that I couldn't, and I like, yeah, that was that really I hated that.

So then you go to university mm-hmm. and you get. You know, like you said, you were making some good money. You're in university, you end up No, I, yeah, after university I started making good money. Cause I, I graduated, but in university now, I was my dad was [00:15:00] sorting me out in university and I was the typical, well, not typical.

I was a college kid and I was, you know, I joined a fraternity. I was, you know, I had, I did have a job. I was, I had a few different jobs at university, but yeah, I was just, you know, I was like, minimum wage stuff, right? Just in, you know, part-time hours here and there. But yeah. Yeah, I was partying like a, just a monster man.

And and the way, the way that I drank, like, I, I blacked out pretty much every time I drank. Now what did you major in, in college? I finally ended up majoring in communications. So that was, I, I found out that was the easiest, the easiest degree you could get. So, I tried business math wasn't my forte.

So yeah, like I chose, I finally, my dad was like, dude, just like, pick something man. Cause I went from like psychology to business to hotel [00:16:00] restaurant management. I think I changed majors like four or five times and he is like, just, he's like, it does not matter. He was like, if you're not going, like if you don't know your path right now, just get a degree and get out.

Let's, I was like, ok, cool. Yeah, that's good advice. I mean, one of the top skills at college is just finishing what you start. Yeah, exactly. It, it really is. It's, unless you're gonna be like specifically an engineer or a something in the medical field, , all the other, I mean, you can go to YouTube these days and learn it.

Right now, colleges, how can I find information and how can exactly finish what I. Yeah, I think, I don't, there, I think there will be a time in the future where, I don't know, colleges per se will be like obsolete, but like, I mean, yeah, like you said, I mean, we can learn pretty much most of the stuff that we you know, a lot of the stuff that I've learned, you know, in healing and taking care of myself is like been, you know, online or through books.

Right. Not in a university, any other institution. So yeah, I [00:17:00] mean, I, I don't wanna lose, I don't wanna piss people off, but from what I've seen in 45 years of life, you got like, government is the least efficient and then the educational system is next. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's sad is we're spending obscene amounts of money.

Mm-hmm. go to colleges and universities around the world, and most of 'em are just pumping out liberal, mindless people who really. Just parties stick to an agenda and walk out with no skills. Now there's some hard working people. They learn, there's some great teachers and professors. I taught at a college for three years, so I'm not against formal education.

I'm just saying most programs as a whole, it seems are really a waste of time because nah, I completely agree with it. Yeah, I mean, if you if you, if if you've got a mindset that like, you know, you, you know, you, you're going, you're gonna make it and you're gonna do it. Like, you know, if you're a self-starter, like, I think like colleges would be a [00:18:00] waste of time for you.

Like you, you can, you can do it on your own today, like easier than any other time in history. So, so go back to the cocaine cuz there's a difference between You know, partying and jumping up to that level. Mm-hmm. , what was your first time doing coke? Like, was that at a party? Did a girl kind of coax you into it?

Like how did you No, it was it was just friends, like, you know, fraternity and, you know, the whole party, like the party culture that I was in. I mean, fraternity life was for me, like when I found the fraternity, it was like it was like animal house, you know? It was just like, you know, it was the, the friends, but then it was also like, you know, just the camaraderie and like, yeah, the partying.

It was just, it was amazing. Like and you know, the, the guys, the, the fraternity I was in were big, you know, they were big into sports. To us it was sports and party and girls, and it was just like, yeah, it was awesome. And so that seemed back then, like, it was great. But where did that bring you in life?[00:19:00] 

Yeah. You know, I have some, honestly, you know if I had, if I had used that the fraternity as As if I had used it as well as it, I could have used it then, you know, the friends that I made and like, you know, the connections that I, I could have established you know, cause the for attorney itself is an organization, right. And there, you know, there's a president, there's vice president, there's a I mean, I was a social chair for a while.

And so, you know, if you get inside of that organization, then you can learn skills inside of that organization that transfer later on in life. Right. You know, but a lot of people squander. And I was, you know, I did, I squandered that opportunity to, to use it to, as a, you know, what it was there for. And I, I saw more of the surface level, like partying and, you know, the, you know, all the great things that go along with that.

And then when you got outta college, You're, [00:20:00] you're in alcohol, drugs, you're medicating your pain. You're still not realizing you have serious issues you need to face. So what does that job look like right outta college? And were you able to maintain it? Were you functional? Was it a desire? Yeah, I was definitely functional.

Yeah. I mean, I, I always have been a hard worker. Like if I, you know, when I start something, like I'm, you know, I'm in it, you know, I might be, you know, I might be hungover the next day, but like, I'm, I'm busting my ass to make sure that, you know, I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And so, you know so yeah, I got a job as a financial advisor despite having graduated communications degree.

My dad told me like, cuz that's, that's what he started out. And I was like, I was like I kind of like, you know, I'm kind of gravitating towards the stock market and stuff like that, but I was like, I don't know what to do there. He was like, it's sales. He's like, learn if you can sell, if you can sell something, you can sell, you know, That's what, that's what it's all about.[00:21:00] 

So I got into, yeah, that's just the direction I headed and, but I started out with, like, when I got into it, I was like pushing mutual funds and like, this is like, right, right when the bubble crashed and then all these mutual funds were loaded. Like they were supposed to be balanced, but they were loaded in tech stuff and people were losing their ass.

And I was like, I was like, dude, this sucks man. Like that's like, I don't wanna be a salesman. So I really started studying trading and I actually really started trading and and just talk, talk to the audience. Yeah. Talk to the audience. The difference between a financial advisor and a trader. Cause there's a big difference, but most people don't understand.

Yeah. Like for me, like, I mean, things like things have changed. This was like 20 years ago. Right. And I think it's, you know, a lot of, a lot of like,

Financial advisors do a lot of handholding, right? So it's basically like, you know, they, they help you [00:22:00] set up a plan and help you invest money and like, but they're not like, you know, they're not looking over your account every day and like, oh, you know, I need to rebalance such and such. Nah, man, that's bs, I mean, most of 'em are glorified salespeople.

That's it, right? And they push what their organization tells them. Yeah, pretty much, right? I mean, Merrill Lynch has got their stuff, like ed Jones has got their stuff, like you know, everybody, you know, everybody's got their stuff. So I mean, if you're somewhat proficient with you know, budgeting your money and like putting some money away, like you're much better off.

Like if you don't know anything about, you know, stocks, this, the best way to do it is like get in with like Fidelity or one of these, like Vanguard, one of these No look mutual funds and like things have evolved. I know there's like a change funds and stuff like that now. So yeah, but go back. I didn't mean to Dere, that's the best way to.

Yeah, I just wanted [00:23:00] people to understand the difference between a financial advisor mm-hmm. , and then a trader, and just find quickly what a trader is. And we'll go back to your story so people know. I mean, somebody who's trading is actually like actively trading your account, right? I mean, they are, they are looking at the market.

They are you know, they're sitting on positions. They've got stop orders on, you know, the stuff they buy, you know, in case like, you know, the stock dips and they can get out. You know, this is this active, right? Your, your stuff is being managed. And so that's the direction that I started getting into.

And then, but yeah, like I started making some money and I was also balancing like I was also balancing that with I was also selling some insurance and stuff like that to, you know, as, to be like the whole financial, you know, advisor for people. And so, you know, some insurance Some, some different insurances paid, pay a shit load of money.

So, so yeah, that was giving me like cushion [00:24:00] to trade on my own, and then I was trading other people's money. So but yeah, just I got I started getting successful and then, yeah, I found cocaine again, and man, I was blown my every night. It was, it was pretty ridiculous. And yeah, I got, and in that just couldn't, I'm sorry.

I mean, I was alone, right? I mean, I basically, my dad has had an office. He was a, cause I moved back to the small town. I started in Charlotte, North Carolina. Then, like, I just, I wasn't digging it and I was like, dad, I was like, I miss like I wanna, you know, be home man. And we're, you know, near the beach.

And so he is like, yeah. He's like, you know, I started this business in hopes that you and your brother would come and work with me. He's like, come on. And so, yeah, I moved in, I was working with him. And then I got a place at the beach and then I started working more out of the beach than I was in the office.

And then I got to the point where I was just [00:25:00] working out of the beach and then I was just, yeah. With nobody, with nobody to kind of check in with or be accountable to. I mean, other than the clients. You know, I was, I was a, I was a wreck man. I just really started getting in, I was just doing cocaine and drinking whiskey every night.

And it was just, you know, and more like I started, I was to the point where I was doing cocaine in the morning to like, help me get going from, you know, drinking so much whiskey night and then the cocaine from the night before. I was just a vicious cycle and I just caught myself and I was like, I was like, dude, I'm, I finally realized like I was pushing myself to brink and I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna die if I keep it up like this.

And was it, was it accepted in that industry? Cause that's a high. Typically high income, high speed. Yeah. I guess like, I mean, none of the people that I like that I, that I knew did it. Cause I mean, most of the people that I mean, cuz I [00:26:00] wasn't as, you know, when I got back into it, I mean this was all, you know, I was bringing my experiences into, you know, into the where, where I was.

Right. But the, a lot of the people, like my dad, like the two other people that worked in his office were like almost over 60. That's a bunch of old dudes. Right. So accepted. No, but I mean, I guess like if you're in if you're on Wall Street, you know, you know, up in New York and you're, you know, actually on the floor or like I've heard, you know, stories of those traders, like on the floor, just like get smashed pretty much all day long just to, just to keep that, you know, to keep that level of intensity that they need to keep so Right.

To me it was just, it was just something I enjoyed and I just, I. Way, way overindulged not enjoyed it was just, it was just one of those ways to numb myself. Right. Yeah. So now you're outta college, you're trading, you're working back with your father and his team, [00:27:00] and where does life go from there? Bo that's, yeah, man, I got, I got so deep and I was just, I basically, like, I couldn't face the whole, I couldn't get out of the hole.

I couldn't see a way out of the hole that I dug for myself. And that's where, yeah, I literally gave everything away. Like I said, I gave my the keys to my car, to my brother on the way to the airport, and I was like, it's yours. I'm out, man. And everybody was like, what's going on? What are you doing? I was like, I'm just leaving.

My dad's like, what are you, like, what are you coming back? Like, what are you, like, what's going on? And then I just literally, I just ran away, man. And where did you go to, and what was that part of your journey like? I started in London. I had a friend there and he was like he was, he had been in the military, but he was out and he was working with private with a, like a public company in London [00:28:00] defense, some kind of defense company.

And he told me, he is like, yeah, if you wanna keep traveling, man, like you know, I know, I know people that teach English. And so I looked into it and there was an English teaching program to teach English to foreigners in the Czech Republic. So I took that I bought a bought a ticket to to Czech Republic.

Took that course made some friends there. We, I'm in, ended up moving to Taiwan and that's where, yeah, I was, I went from a six figure job to teaching Asian kids to speak English for like 12 an hour. So, and then how was your life at that point? Were you happier or still sad? Where were you at? No, I was miserable, man.

I was just like, you know, it was good When I was traveling, I was doing all the stuff like in Prague. Prague was insane. You know, I had a really good time traveling around in London. We did some road trips into Germany. When I [00:29:00] got to Taiwan, you know, it seemed like everything was going good when, actually, when we first got to Taiwan, I came with a friend who I'd met in that course, and he said I helped him get to Taiwan to here.

I'm actually in Taiwan right now. And the first day we got there, we came to the city and I was like, oh, hell no, man, I'm out. . He was like, he's like, dude, you can't leave me. Like, I got no money. I was like, dude, I'll sort you out, man, but I'm just, I'm leaving . He was like, no. What? Like, why, why? Like, dude, I was like, you realize you just let Prague right?

It's like, it's pretty much it's like a fairytale. Like there's castle, there's a river running through the city. I mean, it's just, it's beautiful. It's gorgeous. Right? And then we get to like a city in Taiwan. It was the mid, in the middle of the country and it was just a bunch of buildings. Like I was expecting, like tropical country palm trees.

And it was like, boom. We got stuck in the middle of the city. I was like, nah, [00:30:00] Uhuh, sorry. But the funny thing is like, he left like a year later and I ended up staying for a few more years before I, I left and I left Taiwan after a few years and, and moved and started moving around again, but, and did you teach the whole time you were in Taiwan?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, I started teaching and then I met this guy who wanted to build a para gliding school up in the mountain. And so he was like, yeah, we can build this we can do like a cafe and like, you know, you know do this English teaching cafe. And I was like, yeah, I'm in with that. And so I helped him like fund the whole project and then that went belly up.

But it was that, that was my, that got me out of the city and into like a, an environment where I started riding a bicycle pretty often. Which, which ended up helping me get out of [00:31:00] some of my stuff. The bicycle was very therapeutic. Ended up cycling around Taiwan cycle through Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand later on, later on in my life cycle across America.

So, yeah, I like That was where I fell in love with bi. Nice. Now was that an intentional thing or it just bi It happened like a friend. Yeah. One of the guys in the town that we moved to had a bike and he is like he's like, you want this bike? I'm like not really. He's like, well, I'm, you know, I, I kind of need some money to go to.

I was like, yeah, right man, here's some money. I'll buy the bike from you. And I just put it in the basement. And then after a few months, like one of my another friend was like, Hey, we're going to bike. Hey, I got a bike. . I was like, yeah, I go with you. And then that was pretty much it. That's where started.

Nice. So now [00:32:00] you're going through a lot of life. You're kinda hiding and running and you're still working and you're still functional. Mm-hmm. . What was your average day? Did you feel angry? Did you feel lonely? Did you feel happy? What were you feeling those years? I was jittery until I had a drink. And then after that I was great.

So you were full blown alcoholic at this point? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Like I was yeah, if I didn't have a drink, I was, I was shake. Right. And then, yeah, you start traveling on your bike. And then how did you get back to the states? Did you leave Taiwan for good or did you just take a vacation? How did that work?

No, I left, I left well, things, things didn't work out the way I wanted to in Taiwan. So I left Taiwan, I moved to Mexico. I took what I did, I learned how to I became a scuba dive instructor in Mexico. Then I left there, I was gonna go, and then I went back to Taiwan to teach scuba diving. But then, [00:33:00] like, there was no, that, that industry's the tourism industry in Taiwan is not like what?

Like it is in, in Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Taiwan's like a really small island. It's kind of like a yeah. It just, it doesn't have that tourism infrastructure. So, no. When I think of Taiwan, the first thing I think of is the stickers made in Taiwan. Mm. Are they big in manufacturing?

Yeah, they are. They make a lot of stuff that we use back home. And in fact, I don't know if you've heard recently, like the whole thing that's going on with China, like China trying to reclaim Taiwan. Mm-hmm. . Um, But the only thing that's. Apparently I'm, I'm not very good at keeping up with the news, which is not very smart cause they are knocking at the door right now.

I mean, China is, but apparently the only, the biggest thing that's keeping them at bay [00:34:00] is that the world, Taiwan houses the largest producer of semiconductors for phones and mm-hmm. , whatever, whatever uses semiconductors and they supply the world with those semiconductors. So basically yeah. So there are a lot of other countries that are, you know, have, you know, kind of have Taiwan back right now, you know, cause of.

You know, thing, which is a shame, right? Cause you look at like, what happened with Ukraine and Russia, right? So it's like, basically like, all right, so Ukraine doesn't have anything to offer the world. So basically nobody wants to pack 'em up. Right? But you know, because, because, you know, people's mobile phones are in in a, in, in in jeopardy, you know, or their fu their next mobile phones in jeopardy.

Then like people got Taiwan back, right? It's kinda messed up. Yeah. So [00:35:00] it, the world. There's an old mafia saying, believe none of what you hear in half of what you see. Yeah. Right. And we're living way past those borders. You can't believe anything that comes across the propaganda of tv. It's sad. It's very sad.

It is. So let's get back to Bo's story. Not cuz I'm, I'm people say don't talk, let people say don't talk about politics and religion and really, religion and politics are the most important things for our lives. Mm-hmm. . And then you have you know, anything you say can will be used against you every day.

We just got banned on social media platforms for state in our opinion. We fought it, we appealed it, and thank God we won. God changed their hearts. But it's such a cancel culture and it's such, you know, BS. You know, somebody's your enemy one day and the next day there, there are little angels that go to church on Sunday and sing hymns.

And it's like, you're such a piece of crap. And in the United States, I know, right? We got the worst administration of all [00:36:00] time in the history of the United States. And it's like, come on. You know, let's just, let's stop lying to each other. You have control. It's complete corruption. Move on Taiwan. They want semiconductors.

China wants 'em more power. Yeah. The rest of the world says, no, don't give 'em to China. Stop. It's all about money, right? Yeah. Yeah. Let's, let's get back to Bo. We don't need to solve the world problems today. Let's just help other one story at a time. So for our listeners, now you're traveling, you're doing this, you're still not happy, but you start getting involved in cycling.

So where does this journey bring you be? I actually, I mean, it took me, I ended up in I ended up in Vietnam. After a few more stops, And I was working on an app with a couple of guys. And I was also, man, I was working for this I got a job working for this guy and his thing was like, [00:37:00] I was, I was doing content, I was writing content.

And the, the guys that I was doing this app with were also part of the like, web developing group. And so they brought me on board to help out with some of their, you know, the content for some of their projects. And so one of their clients they got was this guy who apparently sold his deal, was selling.

Containers, shipping containers to people to invest in. Right. So his thing was like, you know, the shipping companies do not, you know, they don't own the shipping containers and like, you know, we own the shipping containers and we lease them to the shipping companies, right? And so it was like, wow, that's a pretty interesting business.

So we were writing, I was writing content for this guy's website, for his blog and everything like that. And then we found out like like maybe three, three to [00:38:00] four, five months into the whole thing that the dude was it was a Ponzi scheme. Like the do, it was like, you know, the shipping containers do own the shipping containers.

This guy was just like basically robbing people blonde. . And so it was crazy. So we, like, I had to, I had to walk away from that. I lost the the, the, the two guys that I was partying with. Like, there was a huge blow up that fell out. The girl that I was dating, like, it was amazing girl that fell apart, like I was drinking myself stupid.

At that point, I started sniffing heroin. I was like passing out on the streets, drunk in Vietnam, and like, I called my brother. I was like, dude, I am, I don't know where I, like, I don't know which way's up. Like, I, I, I can't, I can't seem to get things right. I don't know what's wrong with it. And he was like, come back, we'll sort you out and you know, we'll help you get on your feet and let's see.

So I d went back and when, as soon as I got back [00:39:00] and like, you know I was like, oh my God, what did I do? Like I've just, you know, I, I was in Vietnam's, you know, I was in a good, you know, I had things and I just threw, I just threw everything away. And so I was like, how am I get, get myself out of this? And I was like, well, what?

I'll just, I'll start a website and I'll ride my bicycle across the states and like you know, cause I like riding, so I'll just write about my experience and then I'll parlay into that, into like being a travel rider. So that was my thing, right? I was like, all right, I'll do that. So I got like a crappy bike and I rode across the country with a website and I exchanged reviews on my site for for meals, for like, places that I stayed in most of the time.

I slept in the hammock on the side of the road. But yeah, I got, I, I got to the end of the, I got to the west coast. I made it, nothing materialized, and my aunt and uncle were like like, come on, we'll, we'll help you get on your feet. And so I was staying with them [00:40:00] and my and I was, I was still doing content.

I was writing content for people. My aunt and uncle came in one day from the doctor. My aunt told me that she had breast cancer. And that case, at that point, I was drinking about an 18 pack a day. And I was drinking I was drinking whiskey at night to go to bed. So I just totally knocked myself out. And after my aunt told me she, she had breast cancer, I was like, you know, here's this person who's like, busted her butt her entire life, you know, done all the right things, you know, and she's got breast cancer, right?

And I was like, I have literally tried to kill myself multiple times. I have not succeeded, you know, and I'm still doing it to this day. I was like, dude, you have got stop. And so that's, I like, I swerved off. I was like, I see it. I'm like, I'm done. I'm done. Drinking. and pretty much stopped like that day cold Turkey, and I started meditating.

I [00:41:00] started just like consuming everything I could get. I bought a Kindle and I just started just like, just sucking everything I could, you know, get my hands on, just jamming into my brain, trying to heal, trying to get myself trying to learn why I was in this situation I was doing, I was in, and like how to get myself outta that situation.

And did someone tell you? Or you just like, I just gonna do this, you know? No, no, that was it. That was like my aunt told me and I was just, you know, I had that realization, like, I think that night I just like, just completely saw myself and then like next day I was like, right man, this is it. Like, you know, you, you've reached it like you are, you know, look at what is in your face, look at where you are.

You're like in your, you know, late thirties, you know, you're living with your aunt and uncle, like you have nothing. You have absolutely, you feel nothing. You have nothing to show for the last 38 years except a bunch of scars and, you know, funny stories, you know, you don't need any more [00:42:00] stories, right? You don't need anymore travel stories.

You don't need more, you know, dumb shit. You've done stories like get it done. And so, yeah, I sat myself down and I was like, right, this is it, man. And I started meditating and You know, that kind of pulled me through. I started reading Tony Robbins and Joe Dispenza and I started taking Mind Valley courses and just like every book that I could get my hands on and just like, just, just Dale Carnegie and you name it, man.

I mean, literally I just went through hundreds and hundreds of books self-help business anything that I could think that would help improve my life. And then as you're going through that, what was the transition like? Like you said, you cut off. The alcohol and drugs. Cold Turkey. Mm-hmm. . But then where did you go as you're consuming knowledge?

Where did you go professionally? Did you get a minimum wage job? Yeah, I started, [00:43:00] yeah, I started bartending. And I saved up money and I was like, you know saved up money and I moved back to Vietnam. Cause like that led a bad taste in my mouth, like leaving Vietnam. I was like, you know, I felt like I got, I felt like I let the place beat me down and I was like, I'm going back to own it.

And I moved to a different place, but I moved to Danang, Vietnam. And same, like, same thing happened. I didn't get this time I didn't go back to drinking, but I went back and man, I was getting sick all the time. I was getting food poisoning. I got dingy, fever you know, just every like, just every, like, I was almost every month I was getting like sick for like three, four days.

And it was just, it was, it was debilitating. And I realized that, like, looking back now, I realized that, you know, me getting sick, Was one of the other thing was another thing that I used as a kid to get myself out of going to [00:44:00] school or to get attention. Right? I remember my brother got got his tonsils taken out and I got jealous cuz he went to the hospital and then like, you know, people were paying him attention, right?

So then I would f find my way to find a way to get sick. I remember rolling around and Po a friend of mine got poison ivy and he missed like a couple days of school cause he got poison ivy. I went out in the woods and rolled in poison ivy so I could get out going to school, you know? So then, you know, as I as I, as I moved away from the alcohol and I started, I started getting into weightlift.

And, but yeah, I was still finding ways to self-sabotage by like by getting sick. No. And on the side, before we go on mm-hmm. , you had sibling rivalry from your, the birth of your brother. Mm-hmm. , was he competitive towards you or he was like, Hey man, I'm just me and I love you. Like, what was that dynamic [00:45:00] like?

Yeah, my brother was real chill. I was the one that was, I, I had that like, you know, kind of aggressive. You know, I remember when we played, like when we played sport, he was, my brother was really good at basketball. I was really good at soccer. But when we were playing basketball, as I was actually like kind of roughing him up and pushing him and like kind of being a dick And, but like, I mean, he, he was, he was better than I was and he could just kinda out school me.

Right. And I would get, you know, I'd get ticked off when we played. Yeah. Because he did beat me. So but yeah, my brother, my brother's pretty chill. He, I mean, he didn't do anything to deserve now the way that I treated him. Yeah, that's where I was getting at. Was it bidirectional competitiveness or was it He's just him and you just had that?

Nah, it was just being a dick man. Yeah. It was just, yeah, it was me being a dick. So. All right. So now you're back in Taiwan. Yeah, I left, yeah, I left Vietnam and then I moved back. I finally moved back to Taiwan. So actually I do have a question. When [00:46:00] you were in the States you uhhuh quit alcohol and drugs, cold Turkey, and then you became a bartender.

Mm-hmm. , that sounds so dangerous and counterproductive. Explain that. Did you have moments of temptation? Were you? No, I was, I was, I was, you know, I was resolved to, like, that was it. Like I realized that like, you know, the drinking had put me in the place that I was in and that, you know, it was time for me to move on.

And honestly, I did it for the money. I didn't think, like I had just come from like, you know, years of teaching English and scuba diving and, you know really like not making a lot of money. Right. So and I squandered everything I had made in the past, so, That was where my self worth was. Like I was at the bottom right and I was basically working my way up.

In fact, like my first job when I was with my aunt and uncle was working at what was that place called? It was [00:47:00] some kind of like athletic store, and I was basically like stocking shells. And then I went to Bed, bath and Beyond. I was working the night hours, the night shift, like doing the same thing, stocking shelves.

And then then I saved a and that took me like, you know, from one job to the next was like a few months. Then I leveled up and I got the bartending. What do you call that? Certification or whatever. Then I started be, then I started bartending and like making more money and then I just started saving money like crazy.

And it took me about after, from the time I started bartending to the time I left, like six months for me to save up, you know, the money I needed. And my aunt and uncle were really helpful. I was staying with them. They had a huge house and actually they were, you know, they were on the edge of re of getting, of, of retiring.

My aunt had already retired, but they needed help running that place. It was basically like a little ranch. So, you know, I helped them and you know, I paid my dues by, you know, but we were, you know, we were a good [00:48:00] family unit too. We all worked together. They helped me out. I helped them out. It was really and that was, that was actually a really nice experience having them and seeing, seeing the way they interacted.

Cause because I pared that into the relationship that I have with my wife now. I'm now married. And I find, you know, spending time with my aunt, uncle was really nice because I gotta see like a healthy relationship and how they, you know, how they function, you know, not just romantically, but like financially and you know, everything and how they had built this successful unit.

And for me it was like that was, that was, that was a really, really important growth period for me. Now you stopped drinking and drugs. Mm-hmm. , you moved back to Vietnam and Taiwan, you know, you move around mm-hmm. and then you're around 40 at this point. Give or take a year or two. Mm-hmm. . And you found cycling did help with, you know, helping you start to [00:49:00] heal.

But now you're meditating, you're reading, you're absorbing good content. And then where does that real change from, from that still emptiness in your heart to being full and at peace? Transition us to. It happened when, so when I moved here, I met the woman who's now my wife. We met after I'd been here for a month here being in Taiwan?

Yeah, yeah, sorry. In Taiwan. So we met, like, I'd been here for a month, we met and it was like, oh, fire. Right from the beginning, like, and on our first date, I actually told her, I was like, I'm gonna marry you. Never like thought like that kind of thought. Never crossed my line before. Right. And was she a tourist?

Was she a No, no. She lived, she lived in Taiwan and she was actually married at the time, so she was, and she was going through a divorce and that's something I didn't know about, but like we found out. But it was no problem. Was she was a, [00:50:00] was she a local, like she was from Taiwan? Yeah. Okay. Well, her parents are from Taiwan, but she, they, they moved to Brazil and so she actually was born and grew up in Brazil and then ended up back here like later in life.

Okay. So she had more of a culture, a mixed culture culturally? Yeah. Brazilian, Portuguese, Taiwan. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Married. And she was, she was more Portuguese than she was Tony's. Okay. So you meet this girl, you didn't know she was married. You guys start dating, and then where did it go from there? It just, it was like, as good as we were in our good times, I knew we were like fantastic.

Like we, we had our battles, man. And I was going through my stuff and like, she was just like, she was, she I don't, I hate to say at the beginning, kind of rode my coattails like, cuz you know, I'm healing. And she's like, Ooh, you know, this is, this is, this is the right direction I wanna go to, right? So, so I kind of pulled her along under my wing and, you know, started showing her the stuff that I was doing [00:51:00] and how I was, you know, bettering my life.

And she was like, you know, her eyes opened up. She was, oh God, this is awesome. Like this, you know, this is what I wanna be doing too. And so we, we did it together and we pulled each other along and like, but we still, man, we had some massive arguments like and they would just end like me, like, I'm out, you know, that was my thing, right?

Remember, I'm, you know, I'm the runner, so I was just like, I'm running, I'm out. You know, and then we'd get back together and it was just, oh, it was brutal. And About two years ago we had one, we had a big argument and it was same thing. It was like, I'm out, like I'm finished with this shit. And we we ended up, we had a friend who's a Buddhist monk and she, we, we got by together, but we were like, look, alright, this is it.

You know, either we had, we get some outside help or like, we gotta go our separate ways. Cause like all the stuff we've been doing our own, you know, there's still so much [00:52:00] underlying baggage that we are not hitting, you know, or we're not able to tap into and, you know, connect with. So like, we need some help.

I was like, all right, I'm cool with that. Like, you know, I'll do whatever. And so, yeah, this, this, our friend's woman, she's a Buddhist mon, introduced us to this guy who does a program called The Spiral. And it was put together by an Australian guy and the first session. Boom. Blew my mind. I cried for probably half a day.

I mean, like, you know, not sniffing, like, damn busting. Like, I'm surprised I didn't just like shrivel up and evaporate . It was, it was brutal, man. But I finally realized, like, I started making connection. I was like, you know, and as soon as, like, as soon as I started doing this work, it was like, you know, all the things that I had previously been blind to, you know, the things that I had done to myself, the drinking, the running away, the the way that I [00:53:00] treated people, the things that I thought all of those were like little bubbles that started popping in my, in my in my field of awareness.

And it was like, once those bubbles popped, it was like, oh shit, I was doing this. Oh my god, I was saying this. Oh my God, I was thinking this, oh my God, I was doing this. And it was like, oh, oh my God. Like, and then once, you know, once I started seeing that stuff, I was like, Now, now I know what I was doing.

Now I, now I can choose. Now I can make different choices. Right. And that just, just started lifting a veil of, of like, like the curtains coming open in a, like a, in a play or a stage. Right. And it was like, oh, whoa, okay. Look at everything. Like, you know, it's possible now. And from that day forward, it just, my life started just like, just started the, the wheels started getting traction and like I started just sailing.[00:54:00] 

So what were some of the things, what were some of those, for our listeners that have already connected with you, what are some of the truths that you heard that just opened your eyes to the reality of what's going on and why, so you can move forward? What were some of those truths? The biggest thing for me that I realized was that Was that I did not feel worthy.

Right? It was, I like the punishment that I put myself through was that I thought I was a bad person. I felt like I was a bad person. I didn't feel good enough. So I was, I was, you know, I was hurting myself. You know, I had tried to kill myself in car accidents. I had tried to kill myself with drugs and alcohol, and I, I had tried, I'd literally pushed away, you know, some beautiful, beautiful people in my life.

I had pushed away business. I had pushed away money. I had basically bankrupted myself on every in, in every area of life that you can do. So, [00:55:00] because I didn't feel worthy of, of those things, right? Every time I became, you know, a little bit successful, I would, I would blow. Every time I had a good relationship with a girl, I would like run away or figure out a way to just like, you know, I was like, oh, you know, I can't do this anymore, blah, blah, blah.

And I did that in every area of my life because I didn't feel worthy. And so under understanding that and then understanding the programs that I was running, you know, to, you know, to keep myself in, you know, in at the bottom of the barrel was just like life changing. Unbelievable. So for our listeners who are stuck in this self-sabotage mode mm-hmm.

if you were to give just practical steps of, hey, you know, this is what worked for me. Try this 1, 2, 3. What would you recommend to them? To us?

Be curious. Like, get out there. Like, I can tell you without a doubt, the work that I do now [00:56:00] will change your life. beat the addiction that I had. I can now have a beer man. Like, and this is you know, this out, out of all the things that I've accomplished like this is that, and the relationship that I have with my wife are like my two like gold stars that I, you know, a, that I wear, I don't show 'em to everybody, you know, but I kind of wear on my sleeve.

It's like, dude, I beat addiction. Like I was at a case of beer a day plus Jack Daniels at night. Like I was shaking when I wasn't drinking. And I can have a beer now when I want, if I want, you know, my wife and I this weekend we had a, we had a little argument and we actually went out and we had a couple drinks, something we've never done before in the five years that we've been together.

And And it was just, it was just like we had this new experience together and it was beautiful. Right. And then, you know, I don't know, [00:57:00] I, I might not have a beer for another couple months, but it's just, it's, that's my choice. Now I get to make that choice that alcohol does not own me. You know, the substance does not own me anymore.

I can do it. So, so then you kind of had a mental shift where you're like, boom, no more alcohol, no more drugs. Mm. But for the first step, for somebody listening, what would you say that is? Or does it tie back to finding that Yeah, you've got, like for, you know, if you, if you're, if you've gotten a, if you have an addiction that you're dealing with, then you know, you've got to reach that point where you know, you, you take control.

Like you put your foot down and say no. Right? Then after that, you can start looking into help. Cause you will need help. You gotta have, you can't, you know, most people can't beat addiction on their own. Like, I put my foot [00:58:00] down and like, I was just, I was like, that's it. I'm not gonna do it. Not putting myself in that position and like you said, right.

Kinda strange that I started bartending, but I was like, you know, I like, I'm, I'm very stubborn too, so I'm like, you know, you know, I, I had no problem being in that situation and like, and, and you know, and saying like, no, that's, I'm not gonna do it. Right. So yeah. So let's go back then to your story. So you go to this teaching mm-hmm.

And the first experience is mind boggling. It's just mind blowing, right? Mm-hmm. , and you're taking it in, you cry for hours the first day. Where does your life go from there? And what happens to your wife as well? Yeah, well, things like things started changing. Like my, my, I had an, an instantaneous shift and like in my, in, you know, where I was and, you know, [00:59:00] in life and what had put me in that position.

Right? And so, you know, things started getting better. You know, for me personally, our, the two things that as I was going through the work, I was, I was talking to the guy that's, that's leading me through this work and I was like, Hey, man. You know, so we're uncovering all these emotions and we're moving these emotions and connecting with them and like, so, you know, if I get to the the root cause of these emotions that led to my addiction, then I should be able to have a drink again.

Right? And he was like, dude, don't, I was like yeah, but I'm, you know, I really believed like, this is, you know, this is it, right? Because one of the first books that I read when I first started this when I, when I started this journey was it's called the Molecules of Emotion, and it's more of a biography.

But the, it is written by female doctor Dr. Canus per, and it's basically like what, what [01:00:00] really touched me about that book was that our emotions affect us on a molecular. Right. And so I didn't, I didn't know at the point that I read it. Like I didn't know how I was gonna make that connection, but I just knew that like, that was like, that was my key.

And when I found this work, and it was like, and so that's one of those, you know, that's one of those dots connected. And I was like, no. And I was like, I told this guy, I was like, man, this is, you know, I believe like, you know, these emotions that I've been hating onto, that we're holding onto, that we've, that I've stored, that we're finding and now, you know, and dealing with like that's, you know, that's it.

And he is like, ah, you know, I still wouldn't do it. Well, I did it. I waited for a few months after we finished working together and like I had a glass of wine and then the next weekend I had two glasses of wine. The next weekend I had like half a bottle and I was like, I could feel that, I could feel it waking up in me again.

And I was like, what? We did. Was not enough. So I [01:01:00] took what I had learned from him. I'd taken really good notes through the process. Then I used some other, some of the other stuff that I had been through to kind of piece things together. And I started working on myself using muscle testing, self muscle testing, meridian, decent meridian points on the body.

Once you find these emotions to help you release the emotions. This, the AMO breath. The program that I do now is called amo. Amo, and Spanish means I love and Chinese means you. I use two different languages because it's a blend. It's a blend of east me's, west healing modalities. So yeah, we use that.

And then on the the end we use neurolinguistic programming to like reach the wheels of attention and push the person further down their, their healing path. And I started putting this stuff together and yeah, I finally got to the root cause of my, my addiction issues. [01:02:00] And like I said, you know, I told you earlier you know, I can have a beer now.

Like, you know, my wife was dealing with food addiction and we fixed her as well. And we've working, you know, we work with other people now that have food addictions and, and also other addictions as well. So It's yeah, it's just life changing. This work is life changing. Yeah, man. As a friend listening to you, I mean, this whole show is about being real and transparent.

I'm like that the gentleman you were talking to at the beginning, you know, I'm like cringing inside. Like, bo don't drink even casually, just, you know what I mean? Cause it's like, you might be great now, but you know, a year from now you might be in a low and that drink does hook you. And I think about that Bible verse.

You know, wine is a mock, strong drink is raging, and whosoever is deceived, thereby is not wise. So like, as a brother and friend, I'm like, please don't drink, don't, don't chance it. Right? . But if you feel like you have that victory, that's [01:03:00] fantastic. And I hope you do. Yeah. I just, I'm like, no, no. Like I'm the he on the side a caution guy.

I'm like, huh, I might be allergic to that. I'll just never eat it again. Yeah, yeah. That's how I am. But yeah. So, okay, so between your birth, And today I feel like there's a section between where you're learning this and putting it together. We missed mm-hmm. . But in your opinion, is there anything significant between your birth and today before we transition to where is Bo and where are you heading?

Nah, I mean we covered, I mean, yeah, well, you and I got deep man . Yeah, we covered a lot of, the, lot of the stuff and I'm just now yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing this work now and that's that's, yeah, that's my next step. So. Good man. Now talk about Meridian points a little bit and is there an exercise you can leave the listeners with so they can try and if it works for them, they can contact you for more?

Yeah, for sure. This Meridian points, they correspond with different the different [01:04:00] meridians on the body. So this is like a master point that we use to release the emotions, but then it's tied in with the muscle testing and like how. Oh, oh, sorry. The majority of our listeners are podcast listeners.

So just so you know, Bo was having with one hand his temples on his Yeah, yeah, right. Just, yeah. Right. Yeah, right. Right above the temples there. So that's a master release point, but then that corresponds with the with the muscle testing, which we use to find the emotions in the first place. So I think one thing that I can leave you with for sure is like the, the AMO breath, which is a breath that I developed when I was going through this work because, As I was going through this work, like one of the big things that like when we connect, when we find these emotions that you programmed as a kid these traumatic instances, and the thing is with trauma, like, you know, most people, they hear the word trauma and they think like, oh, car wreck or PTSD from [01:05:00] war, or like, you know, a divorce or like, you know, a traumatic event, you know, to a kid can be like a butterfly landing on your shoulder, you know, and freaking you out.

It can be, you know, it. Anything, it does not have to be like some huge monumental event. In fact, you know, the definition of trauma is just an emotional event, right? And so our subconscious is using these ex experiences, these emotional events, these trauma, these traumas that we experience. And it's, and it's grabbing onto those reactions and it's programming them into our.

Right. Our body is like kinda like the high school hallway like your atypical high school hallway in like a, like a movie movie scene, right? Which is littered with lockers, but instead of books and papers, our those lockers hold our emotions. And some people hold 'em in our in the inner leg.

Some people hold 'em in their hip. Some people hold the emotions in their heart in their [01:06:00] liver, in their throat, right? Then different chakras, like we put these, we, we store these emotions all over our bodies and these emotions, you know, like anger anger resonates at a, at a, at a very high frequency.

Like it's whereas the love, love emotion has a more flowing resonance, right? And so, you know, when we're, when we're holding onto these emotions, the, those, those high resonance. Emotions, you know, they actually do damage to a body. They attract the attract the injuries and the, and the, the the illnesses that we experienced later on in life.

And one, I'll tell you one thing before I do the alma breath, sorry, I got way off course there. No, I think that's good. I actually know exactly what you're talking about because, you know, a massage therapist will tell you they'll have people just break down on their table [01:07:00] crying or get angry or start sweating.

I mean, they're just getting a massage, but it's not just a massage. They're actually digging into this tissue and releasing, cuz we're all made of energy. God made us. And exactly when you're storing these emotions, good or bad, It's gonna stay with you until you release 'em and that mm-hmm. , what you describe that anxiety versus the peace that ye annoying frustration versus that just calm wave.

Chill. It's, it's totally different. And you know, the Bible talks about a Mary heart do with good, like a medicine. Mm-hmm. , but bitterness is this rawness to the bones and it's medically proven that if you're happy, you're less sick. And there's people with cancers, they're totally gone when they just start laughing and enjoying life again.

Mm-hmm. . So what you're saying is in line with what I believe from learning over the last 45 years of my life and what I experienced firsthand. So, yeah. And keep track, keep going down [01:08:00] that track. I think it's important for me Yeah. Man, to understand. I mean, the Buddha Jesus you know, Mohamed, like, you know every single religion, you know, in in our, you know, existence, you know, they all preach one, you know, fundamental thing.

Right. Just love, you know, love heals. Right. You know, the funny thing is like, I'm reading a book right now. By Dale Carnegie and I was, it was, it was recommended by, I was on an email, this email that I got from somebody and I was like, oh, I'll check that out. might be at something to use, I can, I can use in my practice right now.

And so I'm, if you're asking which book, Dale Carnegie is, how to Win Friends and Influence. Yeah. This one is how how keep living and stop worry. No, no. Yeah. How to stop worrying and start living or something like that. Yep. And dude, it's mo This book is so, it is. So I was talking, I was talking to my wife about it last night because it's so amazing.

Cause [01:09:00] this book was written 80 years ago. Right. And the things that he talks about that were happening in the United States 80 years ago are the exact same things that are happening. Right. And people are worrying about the exact same things we might be driving, you know, Teslas and they were driving Model Ts or whatever they were driving in the forties.

Right. But you know, it's, but they're, there is the exact, exact same things that people were worrying about. And the funny thing is, there's one of these stories when he was in New York and they were, there were people going around, I think it was small pots, and they were like forcing people to get the inoculations or whatever for small pots.

Right. And it was the same thing as Covid. I was like, I was reading that. I was like, oh my God, this is crazy. Like 80 years ago they were going through exact same thing, man. Yeah, yeah. The, I deal Carnegie's books are excellent, but how to win friends and Influence [01:10:00] people is the, the staple. I think, you know, after the Bible and the books that really key into our inner.

Soul. Right? And our maternity probably, if not the top book on my recommendation list or one of the top five, is how to Win Friends and Influence People. I agree. And what's crazy is he refers to God and Jesus through the, throughout that he actually says, I'm not a believer. My parents were. However, every single thing he says ties back to the Bible's chapter in verse and he admits it always works.

So it's like, I know whatever works is cuz of God. But that book, I try to read that once a year just to keep it fresh in my mind. But the how to stop worrying, start living. I remember. Don't they have some pages too? I'm going back. I haven't read that in about 10 years. But don't they have like workbook, almost like pages where he's like, you know, make these.

Compartmentalize plan for the worst thing you can [01:11:00] imagine. Then everything else is icing. Isn't that some of the things he talks about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. There are some of these lists. Yeah. And then at the beginning he is like, you know, read, you know, read, you know, go back and read every chapter twice.

And then he's like very and at the very end there's a bunch of stories, like with per, but he uses stories throughout the whole thing. Right. So, yeah. And you know what else, honestly, just to finish this off, have you read Lincoln The Unknown by Dale Car? No. What is it? Link Lincoln, the Unknown. It's the, the, there's probably hundreds of books in on Abraham Lincoln, but there's like this three volume and encyclopedia set that Abraham's Lincoln's best friend wrote about him.

Uhhuh, who has time for that though? Right? The old Carnegie researched Lincoln for a few years. Wrote Lincoln The Unknown, and it is a easy read, phenomenal read, but what a great book on Abraham Lincoln seeing. Yeah, I'll definitely check that out, man. Oh, you should. It's getting a [01:12:00] copy is the hardest part, but once you get it, it talks about you know, his journey and mm-hmm.

and how he even died thinking he was a failure and, you know, he had a psycho wife. And it just, it goes through things that nobody knows about. Like, it's just really great. I, in the, in the, in the book that I'm reading now, he talks about like how Lincoln had to borrow money to get to his inauguration, right?

Yeah. He, he's, he, I was like, what Yeah, we could, him and George Washington. Yeah, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan, I think are, you know, the three best presidents America's ever had. But Abraham Lincoln is so intriguing because this dude was abused like in every aspect of life, and he, you know, Was depressed and he had issues.

He wasn't perfect. You know, the Civil War, just, God took his mistakes and used them for good. But like you said, he he didn't have money. He struggled. He was poor. He, again, the Gettysburg [01:13:00] addressed. He went to his grave being made fun of by the media. Of what a terrible speech that was. And it went down in the annals of history in every country as one of the greatest speeches of all time

So that just shows you forget anybody's, the only opinions and opinions that matter are gods and yours and everybody else is all you saying. But, okay, so I didn't mean to derail you, but you got me excited. I love Carnegie. I love what Abraham. Nah, I love it, man. Yeah, I love it. So you get, you're reading this book and you were talking about the meridian points, and then you were gonna transition into Yeah.

The AMO breath, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The amo breath. So the amo, AMO in Spanish means I love, and so as I was going through this work now, I was, I was uncovering these emotions like when you, like it's like you said with the massage table, right? Like when you hit these emotion, And when you connect with them and move them, dude, they move.

Right. And you know, for me, one of my biggest ones was anxiety and it, it was crippling. Like, I've seen [01:14:00] people, you know, you've seen like people on news like on TV shows or movies or whatever they, you know, that, you know, the whole you know, typical, like was it breathing a bag, you know, breathing a paper bag thing.

That's how anxious I was getting as I, as I was going through this work and my wife. She went through a reiki course at the same time I was doing this as I was going through this work on my own. And so she would help me with she put her hands on me and like, help me, like, help me calm down with Reiki.

Right? But I was getting to the point where, I was almost kind of relying on her to help me out. And I didn't wanna do that. I didn't wanna be a burden on her because it was, I was also feeling like really, really weak and vulnerable. Right? And, and, and I didn't want, you know, I don't wanna be crawling to my wife.

Can you help me out? Can't, you know, I didn't wanna be [01:15:00] dealing with, so I, I wanted to sort this stuff out on my own, but I didn't know how. And so as I was doing this stuff and like, you know, all the stuff that I had learned and read and like started connecting and I was like, you know, I was thinking about, I remember one day I was clearing some stuff and what a loving state that I was in.

And I was like, love the answer. I and then I, I started making sounds and then next thing you know, this ama breath. And I started, like, I started going through it and I was like, whoa, is amazing. And I started doing it as I was doing my clearings and I was like, I like, whoa man, this is like, really clings me out.

So ama. Like I said, in Spanish means I love, so it's literally a breath of love and it's, we, the breath is done through the way that it's spelled. So it's a m o. And so the a and amo, what we do is we visualize like white light, like loving universal light. You can [01:16:00] imagine, you know, the hand of God coming down and, you know, touching your head or, you know, hearts from heaven flowing down or whatever, you know, whatever.

It works for you, right? It's just imagine just love and, and compassion pouring down on the top of your head, down through your throat, into your chest. So, and that sound is as it's coming down. The second part of the breath is the m so, which is, yeah, the, and we, that is a, represented with a and that that hum actually stimulates the va, the vagus nerve. Right. Which is another emotional reset in and of itself. Right? So we're using the vi visualization of the, ah, the breath coming down.

Then the, the hum you know, stimulate the vagus nerve. And then with the o we imagine that breath like shooting out, like when I was a kid I think [01:17:00] I'm probably about 10, 15 years older than you, but we had the care bears the cartoon and like little bears with like shoot out love or luck or whatever it was from the chest, right?

Yeah. They each had a symbol in a special special. Yeah. You know, you, so yeah. So that's how, that's how we do it. We imagine, we imagine that light has come down and cleanse, and cleanse our heart center and then pouring, pouring out of our chest. So the breath looks like And funny enough, the a the actually, the a part of it, like most people, you know, when they meditate, do they all, but I was talking with another guy on a podcast about a month ago and he said he interviewed this guy who was saying that he actually, because of like the polarity [01:18:00] shift going on with the Earth right now, the a, the A sound was more was more beneficial than the oh, oh the O sound.

So there's that too. So anyway, yeah. So that's the am of Earth. I think anything in balance again, lines up, you know, false balance and abomination to the Lord. So, too far left, too far, right. That's crazy. God wants balance, right? Mm-hmm. . But there's something with the energy and there's definitely something with the sounds that.

Help you. I don't understand it. And like, like what you just said, that guy, you need to understand polarities and the earth and the moon. I mean, I know there's something to it, right? And I'm not gonna go so deep that becomes my God or my religion. And when it comes to this, though, I know I've experienced where I've just try to, you know, meditate.

And meditate just means just sitting still. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Focusing, pushing away the thoughts that come in your head. They're gonna come in, but just try to push 'em back out. Yeah. But like, if you don't understand it, the way I understood it was the [01:19:00] antithesis. Have you ever been in a room where like the fan above the stove is on, or you're in the bathroom and it's on and you, you don't like it, but you don't really pay attention to it, and then 30 minutes later somebody shuts it off and you're like, Like you feel relief.

You know every human's probably experienced that. Right? Well that relief shows you that sound can cause you discomfort. Mm-hmm. . And you have the music, you know, you put a plant next to classical music, it grows and it leans towards a speaker. You put the , this plant next to rock music, it freaking dies and goes opposite direction.

Yeah. So there's a hundred percent something with sound and frequency and energy. I just don't understand it all. So anything else Bo, between your birth and today? Or just life tips or skills, things people can try at home before we transition to where you are and where you're heading. No, I think that's it.

That the amo breath, like, you know, you said you talked about doing [01:20:00] meditation, like if you do the amo breath you know rewatch this the last couple minutes and re-list to it. Do the alma breath. Actually there's a, there's a link on my website for the free training for the alma breath where I talk about some more advanced techniques too.

But if you do that before meditating and if you go to my website, actually it says a hashtag meditation takes too long. I'm a big proponent of meditation. You know, the work I do just is a lot faster, but so yeah, if you do the ammo, breath before meditation, it'll put you in a state of bliss that will blow your mind.

It's just so I guarantee you'll have the best meditation that you've ever had after you do the. Good man. So let's do this thing. We'll put links in the show notes, and then we'll make sure that if somebody's, whether they're an Apple or Spotify or on our website, then just check the show notes and click and go.

But where's Bo today? Where are you [01:21:00] headed? What's life like as of today? Right now, man, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm finally enjoying life, right? I'm just, I'm building this, I'm building a business where I'm helping people and I'm using, like, you know, the funny thing is like, I have basically 40 years, you know, I'm 46 now.

40 I'd say 40 years of just heartache and pain and so suffering that I can now like, that were my, you know, my coal, you know, that we're being compressed and, and, and, and formed this diamond that I now have to be able to help other people and show other people, you know, the way. To get through it all.

And it's a, you know, you know, that is such a beautiful realization that like, you know, that, that what I went through was not in vain. Right. That, that I can now use that and like, help other people and just, it's beautiful. And I think like another thing, like just [01:22:00] recently, I'm just, I'm just constantly learning and and, and using, and I'm so aware now of like my surroundings and the experiences that I'm in.

I'm learning now. We, we got a dog about six months ago and I'm learning more from this little dog about about life and how to, you know, How to interact with, not with the others. And this little dog is amazing. I grew up my dad, you know, if the dog peed in the house, he smacked it with a newspaper, right?

And yelled at the dog for, you know, peeing in the house. Right. Or if the dog was barking, you know, same thing. Take a newspaper and smack the dog. And you know, you know, that's how you train the dog, right? So, like, you know, the first couple months we had the dog. That's, that's what I thought you did. And anyway, so the dog's been barking a lot.

She's been been not you know, not behaving, I guess the best [01:23:00] the best that we would like. So we bought this course on, you know, taking care, like, you know, training the dog and the, the, the dog, the thing that she's barking at, the thing that she's, you know, that's that's unsettling her. It is trauma.

The dog is going through the same thing that I've been through, right. And then I'm just, I'm, I'm making her trauma worse by, you know, smacking her, right? And it's just like, oh my God. You know, how did I just, how did I overlook that? And so now, you know, the dog gets a little bit antsy, you know, we love the dog, you know, we give her some trees and like, boom.

It just, just dissipates. And like, it would literally, within a week, our dog is going from being, you know, barking at everything and going crazy to like, now, you know, the energy that I'm bringing to the dog is of the energy of love and, and, and compassion. And, you know, the dog just runs under me, starts barking and just licks my face.

It's amazing, man. That's [01:24:00] awesome, Bo. So if someone wants to get ahold of you, what, let's, actually, let's do this too. Mm-hmm. , who are the people that you feel you can help most? Like what's, what's, what does that look like, that profile, and how do they get ahold of you best? The best way. Well, yeah, the best way at the website, like if you are, like, if you're lost, if you feel hopeless, if you feel like nothing you do is right, if addictions are crippling, crippling you, like there are emotions that are attached to all of the, and we can, we can release them, we can find them, and we can release them.

And not only can we find them, I can teach you how to do it on your own. So you are in complete control of your life and you know what and, and, and you know, you are your own [01:25:00] healer, right? I think. Over the last, I don't know, century probably plus of like really good marketing. We've been, we've been, and okay, I would not be here if it was not for like modern medicine, the pharmaceutical industry.

Right. But having said that, you know, you look at the process that happens when you get sick, right? You go to the doctor, he writes you permission slip that you take to another doctor, and then you get the, you know, the thing that's supposed to heal you, right? Well, like, you know, we have that power, but we've given it to the pill, to the concoction, to the, you know, to the syrup, to the, you know, shot or whatever it is, right?

I mean, there are instances where, you know, we do need modern medicine, right? But like, you know, to run that direction every time that you need, you know, you can heal yourself. It is possible. So, That's awesome. And I, I couldn't agree more. I mean, there's a place for everything. We go back to that balance.

Mm-hmm. , you know, there's place for diet, there's a place for [01:26:00] exercise, there's place for herbs and, you know, essential oils, and there's a place for radiation therapy. There's a place for everything. But if we keep in balance, we'll probably never get to that sick place. Mm-hmm. . I, I've been critically ill for years on two different things, but it lasted for years.

And really when I embraced it, accepted it felt love and joy. And then everything turned around, you know, God, God helped me get that better. And I mean, I had a legit, I had a tumor in my head. I had an infection in my tooth that was killing me and poisoning me. So, I mean, I had legit medical things. Right.

And thankfully I had the medical science, the doctors to help me get it right. Mm-hmm. , however, Cutting out dairy, cutting out sugar, you know, being more mindful of what I was putting in my body that took surgery on the tumor surgery and the tumor radiation therapy to tumor shrunk trunk, trunk, trunk. And now, 25 years [01:27:00] later, I'm super healthy, right?

So it's like there's a balance. You know, if I just went holistic, I would've died. If I just went medical, I would've died. But that balance God showed us, kept us alive. So if you're out there, you heard Bo, you heard his story, you heard what he can offer. So reach out to Bo, check out the show notes, go to his website, and hopefully we all thrive, thrive together, thrive individually, and all thrive to the glory of God.

So Bo, thank you so much for being on the show today, brother. Yeah, Dave, you got you got another, Another minute. Yeah, man. Yeah. Look, check this out, man. So, alright. I told you about my my accident, right? Like I didn't go into a lot of the details of that car, that first car accident, but man, I wrecked my body.

Like and one of the things, I crushed my knee, right? And so I've cycled a lot, I've done a lot of stuff. You know, athletically, I, I could never run again. And really like the last couple years, the pain in my knees just really got, just, just [01:28:00] brutal. And so what happened was recently I found the knees over to God.

Have you seen that guy on YouTube? No, I haven't. Okay. So anyway, he's, he's, he's doing this protocol to help people with knee pain. And I was going through his work and like, I, I like what this guy's preaching. I like, I'm totally digged with this. Like I've, I've, I've zeroed in and I'm like, I know this is, like what he's teaching is working right.

He's got a lot of success stories and it just, you know, it just, it just really resonated with it. But the thing is like, I wasn't I was getting, I got to a certain point and then I was not, I was not able to make progress if about two weeks ago my wife and I went on vacation. We did a lot of snorkeling.

Dude, when I, when I was snorkeling and I was, you know, thinning, you know, I. My knee pain, like the next, that night was like, it's diminished by half. So anyway, I, [01:29:00] I came back and I started doing started doing basically going out in the ocean and just thinning for like an hour. And unbelievable, man, it is completely transforming my knee pain.

So yeah, that's just something I wanted to share. Like if you, you know, if you're going through if you've got any knee pain, like first of all, check out this knee over to Guy and then second of all, like if you need some, like a supplement for that, like thinning you using Scuba fans, I got these body boarding on a, what do you call it, boogie boarding fins.

Done a scrap on my feet and just like kick man kick for like an hour. And it just, it's really physically, it's probably. Of the things that I've done you know, on a physical level, this is like one of my top three to really level myself up. Yeah. And it's crazy too because medical science and pharmaceuticals [01:30:00] want you to think you can't be healed.

Yeah. Because they wanna make money. Yeah. Of, of course. Right. Drug you out. Yeah. You're not Yeah. Healthy, you're not, you know, you're not, you're, you're worth nothing to them. Right? Yeah. And it's, it's a sad reality. You want the truth, you go to God, you want the truth on earth, you follow the money. And those, those hospitals that they're building that are 50 stories and brand new, those aren't cheap.

They're being built with our cancers and blood. Mm-hmm. . So anyways. What you're saying though, Bo is true. We regenerate. Our body's made to regenerate. It's proven. Mm-hmm. , some things take seven days, some things take seven years, but our entire body will regenerate. And I think you just said it and I agree.

I know in my personal life being a human Guinea pig mm-hmm. , when you're injured, the common thought as rest and the common like daughter is gonna tell you to rest. But I've found like, yeah, there's a rest. But again, a balance. When you push yourself and you [01:31:00] exercise and you push through the pain, you always come out better.

So by you working an hour scuba diving, By medical science standard that should have irritated the knee and inflamed it and caused all these issues when really like, damn, I haven't felt this good in years. I know, right? Our bodies are built for challenge to thrive, to to be worked. So work, you know, I, I had a ruptured disc, two rupture discs in my back and I was told by, I think it was like three daughters and massage therapists and chiropractors, so probably like eight professionals.

I needed surgery, right? Never had surgery pushed through. It stretched deep tissue massage and ice. I found the combination that worked for me and even though I haven't worked out since 2018 in them, chubby and fat, I have, don't have back issues. You know what I mean? And a few times, like I've had a spasm happen in recent years.

Instead of sitting there or laying down or icing or taking muscle relaxers, I [01:32:00] don't do any of that crap. I force myself, even if I can't stand up straight to get on the elliptical. And I move and I move and I move, and that your body just reenters itself and then you can ice it and then you can get deep tissue massage.

But I am a hundred percent with you, brother. Just, that's awesome, man. Move. What goes by to what we were saying earlier right? About, you know, be curious, right? You know, if, if you're, you know, if you're, if whether you's a physical thing or emotional thing, whatever it is, like, be curious about your own health and like, put that in your hands.

And when you do, like, you know, that's when like, you know, miraculous things start happening. Cause you, you know, you take, you, you literally take that power back, right? And you put it in you, right? Yeah. I mean, you look at like, when, you know, when they do like these pharmaceutical trials, like the, the placebo is, is more effective than the actual drugs in like 70% of the cases.

Right? And why is that? Because that's where the hope is. You know, people put their hope in that pill, right? So they believe it's gonna work, right? [01:33:00] Same thing. If you believe like what you're doing is work, it will work. Yeah. Yeah, man, my hope is in the Lord. And I hope as you and the listeners, we can all have that joy and that peace and that deep down just satisfaction.

But man, I'm totally tracking with you. Like if you've got issues going on, search, be curious. Figure out and die on your own terms. Listen, if you're gonna die, do it your way. You know, like I've had twice. I've had twice when I was 18 to 20. Mm-hmm. . And then when I was 2007 to 2010, they told me to make out my will and get my affairs in order.

So like I said, I wasn't sick for like a couple weeks, it was years. Right. Wow. And I got to the point where it's like, forget this. I literally did everything opposite the physicians were telling me. And that's when I started getting better. It's not, you know, you have, I had some really great physicians and they were amazing.

Yeah. But for every one [01:34:00] excellent one. There's eight medioc. There's probably seven mediocre and two terrible. Mm-hmm. . And I mean, they were telling me, don't drink coffee. I don't drink coffee. So you know what I started doing? I started drinking coffee and I'm not joking, dude. Everything like that, all these things are like, do this, don't do that.

I'm like, okay, fine. So I just did the opposite and then I start getting better . Oh wow. And have you ever tried, Hey, since we've derailed, but to show our audience for man. Yeah. I love that. Have you tried eating a half a banana before bed? No. What does that do? Dude? I stumbled upon it about a month and a half ago.

I put a little YouTube video together and basically I noticed that when I eat a half a banana before bed, I sleep deeper and more restful. So then like I was playing with it. So then I start Googling it. It's all over the. Banana's. A natural like sedative. It's a natural relaxer, da, da da da, and you, you get the [01:35:00] potassium in it.

So this is something that's known. But if you go to the doctor and say, I have trouble sleeping. They're like, here, take this drug. Take this drug. And wow, I just literally was using a banana. And I feel fantastic now. Like I sleep, if I was in the same room with you right now, I would kiss you. I swear to God, like I've been, I've been trying to like, you know, get my sleep thing down.

It's been, you know, off and on, off and on. And like, actually last night I didn't I woke up at like one o'clock and then I couldn't, you know, then I woke up again at three and I was like, ah, what's going on, man? And I've been dealing like, I've been battling that story, getting banana . Try it and we'll do a follow up episode and, and put in a link in your podcast.

See how did Bo do with a banana day for 30 days? I love it. Yeah. And even like, I have a tear supposedly between my bicep and my shoulder, and it was a mess. The arterial gram was just like, like everywhere, the die, but. I just, I don't wanna have surgery. I [01:36:00] asked the doctor, I'm like, Hey, if I totally tear it, is this surgery worse?

Like, nope, same surgery, you're just in pain. Like I can live with pain pain's. Temporary. Yeah. So this has been year, like a couple years now. I stopped working on 2018, so it happened in like 2017. And anyways, I even noticed that the pain between my bicept and shoulder the last six months has been hurting in my sleep.

I think I'm tensing and as I'm tensing it's, it's causing that to stimulate. Soon as I start doing the banana gone. So, and I'm literally just, I'm going to bed, eat it half a banana or I'll throw it with some ice cream, which is probably not good for you. That's why I'm fat. I'm sorry, . But anyways, but no man, that half of bananas been, Beautiful blessing to my life.

So hopefully you and the listeners can try and Yeah. Thank you so much for passing that along, man. That is like, yeah, I've been literally something, I mean, I've done like magnesium spray, like we've been I've been trying to like, you know, limit, [01:37:00] you know, what time, you know, what time I eat my last time, last thing I eat, the last thing I drink, you know, just to make sure, you know, I'm not, I'm not sleeping, not cause I'm getting up to go to the bathroom and stuff like that.

And it's just yeah, routine is huge and mm-hmm. doing, there's so many things you can do. We can have a whole show just on tips for sleep cause I sure sleep my whole life. So I've really, but the other thing too is people, I gotta be careful how I say this because I don't want to advocate something and cause someone harm.

Right? But a few years ago I was in Italy and I smoked a cigar. Uhhuh slept like a baby that night. But I thought it was just the situation, right? Then I get back to the states. And it just so happens I'm with a business colleague and he is like, Hey, you wanna smoke a cigar? I'm like, I just smoked the first one I've ever smoked at 43, might as well.

So I smoke a cigar, slept like a baby. So then I'm having a moral and intellectual [01:38:00] dilemma. I'm like, what? Cigars are bad? Cigars are evil, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right, right. So then I start thinking, who do I know that smokes cigars And Brother Michael Jordan? Well, not everybody I know that smokes cigars are the most B, like personally, not even just on tv.

Like they're the most balanced humans I know. Very wealthy, typically. They're like kind giving people and they're. You know the, the World War ii, the oldest living World War II survivor just recently passed away. It's like 115 or 116, and he smoked 15 cigars on average a day. You know George, George Burns?

Remember the old Oh yeah. George Burns, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cigar. And you go through Stallone Rocky. Now again, they're so rich, they can buy new parts. Yeah. Yeah. So I start researching it now, cigarettes toxic, no, of course, 227 chemicals per stick on average known carcinogens, known cancer [01:39:00] causing, that's trash, vaping.

Even worse. Vaping is leads and metals and chemicals. All stuff to make you sick and addicted. Total trash, but a cigar, it's a hundred percent tobacco. Tobacco's like a banana. God made it. There's nothing added. So long story short, I start experimenting and researching it, and my blood test came back better.

I took blood tests before and after Uhhuh when I started smoking cigars. You know, I wouldn't say regularly. Yeah, but more common I got healthier and then, you know, blow in my mind And you don't inhale it. Right, right, right. So like the worst thing, and I put stuff on social media and Facebook. Do you personally know somebody that smoked only cigars that got cancer or some form of disease?

Mm-hmm. , one person wrote back and said, I had a [01:40:00] police. He was a police officer. He had a police chief in New York that died. I think he was like, you know, the average lifespans 70 to 75 worldwide. And I think he said he died at like 60. But he said to be clear and honest, those cigars might have gave him an extra five cuz he had such a high stress job in life.

Right. So, so I'm just going through, so I'm like, I'm gonna try it. So God forbid my, I get, I say this and someone gets mouth cancer or I get cancer. You know, I don't want that to happen. But I'm telling you that in my life it's had nothing but benefit to me. It relaxes me. It calms me. And then on top of it, I gotta be very careful.

A physician friend I know and their spouse saw the change in me. Mm-hmm. , I told them about it. They thought it was bull crap because they're just programmed with medical science. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. They [01:41:00] tried it. Now they both smoked cigars as well, and they got off their damn pharmaceuticals at night to help them.

So this is like, so I, man, I can't talk for everybody and people are like, damn, what's wrong with you? But listen, I'm just telling you the truth. This is what I believe. I could be wrong either. I'm right and you're wrong. Either you're right and I'm wrong, or we're both wrong and God's right. But we need to, here's the thing with this though, like this blows my mind because like, you know, the, now the way my life works is like, I, you know, you know, I put, you know, my, put my intentions out there and, and I'm just drawn towards things, right?

So the other day my wife and I were, were out riding around and I was like, I was like, I don't know why, but like I've been having like this, a desire recently to, to smoke cigars. There you go. And she was like, she was like, what? I was like, I know. It's the weirdest thing. I was like, I just did, you know, a [01:42:00] cigar store here in town?

She was like, yeah. But I was like, I was like, I don't know why, just like, I don't wanna start smoking again, but like, I don't, I don't, I'm just drawn towards cigars and then to have you tell me that, I was like, oh my god. That's crazy man. Yeah, you gotta, we gotta schedule a 30 or 45 day follow up and we get talk about bananas and we'll name that the episode, you know?

Yeah. Bo Bo and Dave Bananas and Cigars . Yeah. That sounds great. And we'll I'm going to the supermarket to get my bananas and then I'm gonna go find that cigar store today and I'm good both and get something. And that's the thing about cigar is you can get something that's inexpensive, but it's still pure.

The key is just buying pure tobacco. Don't buy the cheap ones. That's colored paper and they put chemicals in too. Get a nice cigar. You can buy 'em online, save a bunch of money. Once you find something you like, but get something mild cuz you're starting out not more than medium. Then you'll start figuring out what you like and what you don't like.

But last thought, globally, if you ask anybody what are the best cigars in the [01:43:00] world? What's everybody say? Cuba. Okay, Cuban. You know why I research and research and researched it? It's cuz Cuba has the highest qu, highest volume of lithium in their. So what's lithium used for? Oh, lithium helps sleep, right?

Depression, sleep. They used to prescribe lithium. So the soil content in Cuba has the highest lithium on the planet. So when you smoke a cigar, that's why it feels so good. Now, you can still get a Cuban cigar and you don't like the flavor, but the actual soil is absorbed into the tobacco leaves. You have a more beneficial response.

So there's the thing, if you always wanna know what, what makes Cuban cigar special? Yeah, there's tons of things, but bottom line is the lithium content and the soil. And you have people, even famous preachers like Charles Persian, you know, he suffered with depression. I've suffered with depression my whole life.

And he said one of the greatest gifts of God to me is a good cigar. Because [01:44:00] when I'm feeling down, I smoke it and it just helps me to relax. So people have been trained in America. I don't wanna speak for the rest of the world, like tobacco, evil, tobacco evil, tobacco, evil. But think of it like this. Weed was terrible growing up for our generation.

Mm-hmm. and I still, I believe weed is a gateway drug, right? Mm-hmm. , but there are some medicinal benefits. Mm-hmm. , but the government said weed evil, weed evil, weed evil for years. Yeah. Once they could monetize and control the supply. Now weed's the wonder drug. Exactly. Everybody should have weed Exactly.

Your arm off. No problems. Smoke a joint, it'll grow back. Just buy it from our dispensary. Right? Yeah. So listen, I'm try a banana. If you're listening to me all over the world, try cigar. Maybe pray about that one. But it really did work for me. And let me know how it goes. Write some notes and the show notes in the comment section.

And bo me and you need to do a follow up in 45 days or 30 days. I'm doing it. I'm down with that, man. Let's do it. Yeah. All right [01:45:00] man. So thanks for being on the show, ladies and gentlemen. We love you. Hope you enjoyed this en episode, not just for entertainment value, but for things you can apply to your life.

Reach out to Bo for myself for help and if you do decide to smoke ATO or to eat a banana, let us know how it works out. We love you. Have a great day and we'll see you next episode Chow. And thanks again Bo. Thanks so much, Davis. I really appreciate it, man. This has been awesome.

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Bo, how are you today, brother? I'm great man. How are you today, man? [01:46:00] I'm doing well. I'm doing well. We had a great, that's fantastic. We had a great episode and our listeners just funneled right into it. They don't know what's gone on in the last 30 days of our life or your life, but when we finished the episode, we were talking about how sleeping helped me with by eating a banana before bed and cigars helped me before bed.

And you said you're gonna be a human Guinea pig and try it. I did. How did it work for you brother? Well, I've done it for the last 30 days and I will continue doing it for the con, the foreseeable future. The bananas, I, I feel pretty sure that the bananas had a definitive impact on my sleep. And not just my sleep, but it was like my dreams, like my dreams, man, as soon as I start, it was at half a banana, right?

So I was eating half. Yeah, I do a half a banana, but if they're small, you know, hold one. Yeah. Yeah. So I did a yeah, I've been doing a half one too, and so it yeah man, my dream just [01:47:00] exploded because I guess beforehand maybe that's, I mean, that's why I was so tired all the time. Cause like grim sleep is like, that's, that's when you dream, right?

And that's, that's your restorative sleep, right. Yeah, the REM phase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So I don't, like, I don't ever remember dreaming for like such a long time. And then boom, man, soon, like the first night I took that banana, like I woke up the morning, I was like, dude,

it. And yeah, it just going. And the cigars, I think like as far as sleep, I'm not sure, but I tell you like, The cigars have been like a beautiful nighttime routine. And I've never, you, like, you really got me to appreciate, you know, cigars and like the, you know, the natural form of tobacco without, you know, all the nasty crap that the cigarette companies put in it, right?

Yep. And it's just the, the way they wrap it, the, the tobacco, like, you know, the [01:48:00] hand, the craftmanship that goes into making it, and like when you're smoking a cigar, you sit there and. You just, I, you know, I've never been somebody like, you know, if I drank a beer, like I drank a beer, like I don't, like, I don't sit around and like, you know, swirling around in a glass, a sniff it and like trying to figure out what kind of floral senses got and stuff like thing with wine or anything else.

Like, I just, if I'm hungry, I eat. If I'm thirsty, I drink. And, but with the cigar it was just, it was really a big just, it, it changed my perce changed the way I appreciate things. And and very in a very short time. And so, yeah, it was actually you know, it was picking out the cigar, like smelling the cigar, cutting the cigar, like putting it in my mouth before I lit it.

And then, you know, my wife was in, she was, she was down with it too, right? So we both got into it and like, it became like our, has became, it has become our nighttime routine and we, we both get [01:49:00] out there and we're like, you know, we light it up and we smell it and we. To on it. And you know, just like the smoke and like we talk about it and like, oh, this is a good one.

This one's, it feels like it's taste like, and it's just, it's a it's a beautiful nighttime routine, man. Every kind of, we've also gotten into a phase recently. I haven't owned a TV in ages, man. Like when she and I moved in together, she had a tv and even then we didn't watch it, but like, I guess this summer we were watching a lot of Netflix and the last month, like we got off of that, which is nice cause I'm not, I'm not a big TV person, but I mean, some of the shows, you know, you get in those series and they're a little bit like, they'll, they'll pull you in.

Yeah. Oh yeah. You can spend the rest of your life watching television and actors pretend to live, so you're at home watching it. They're pretending and nobody's living life. Mm-hmm. . It's like today's, today's [01:50:00] generation of the movie Wally. Right? . But man, I'm so glad to hear that. So ladies and gentlemen listening, Bo and I are not doctors.

We are not playing doctors on tv, right? Mm-hmm. , we are just telling you our experiences with Banana. and with cigars. Mm-hmm. and, oh man. Yeah. I'm just gonna go through it. The bananas, same thing for me. I sleep better, my body wakes up more rested. The dreams are more vivid and, and medical professionals don't tell you about it because they can't sell you pharmaceuticals and you don't come back for more.

Right. They gonna make any money selling you a banana . Yeah. . And Jaquita. Jaquita. What the heck, man? You've done a crappy job. Marketing. You got a whole lot right here. I know. That's huge. Remember when we were kids and it was like, you know, milk does a body good, and then like, you know, then you know, milk comes from a cow, which has five stomachs, so it's like, it's actually not that healthy for us, but like, dude, you're right, man.

Shaquita needs to get on the whole marketing thing and. [01:51:00] Totally jump on that. You got these products that really don't help and it, it is complete BS and they sell it to you and you believe it. And there's other things that God made like a banana. Grab one right here if you're watching YouTube, right? Two bananas.

So this is to me a small banana, so you know, it fits in my hand. So, okay. I'll eat probably one of those at night. Or if it's a big one, I'll eat, you know, half of one. Mm-hmm. . But that's it, ladies says, gentlemen, try it. Give it seven days. Don't even give it 30 days unless you're allergic to it. It's helped bow and I, so at least two for two right here, right?

Mm-hmm. . And then this Say, yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. Go, go, go. Finish the banana. Yeah, I was just saying like, you know, when you know, it is, it's not a, you know, you're not gonna sleep, you know, well, here's the thing. I slept good like. I used to sleep like one night outta four nights. And I, and then the one night I slept was kind of like, it was still kind of crappy.

I've gone [01:52:00] sleeping three nights outta four nights, so Good. So it is, you know, it's not, it is not the end all Beall, but like, From, to flip from one, like I flip from one extreme to the other. So it is, it is, it's been really, really nice. So, and the thing is like when the nights that I'm not sleeping, I'm actually like, ah, man, you know, I went to bed a little bit too late, or I drank you know, I drank.

Drink a glass of tea too late or something like that. Right. So it was there the ones that I could count on, like, or the dog woke me up at like four o'clock in the morning barking. So, you know, but you know, I would say they definitely like, definitely have changed my. Changed my sleeping. No, no doubt.

Yeah. 37 cents, man, or whatever it is. Wherever you are in the world, could be 2 cents, could be $3, but still, it's so inexpensive and it's so natural. It's good for you. And then now when it comes to cigars again, some people smoke a cigar before [01:53:00] bed and they're wired. Me. Mm-hmm. , it totally chills me out. But like you were talking about Bo.

You slow down and you appreciate it, and you shut off the TV and you and your wife are sitting there talking. Mm-hmm. , engaging in communication and laughing and looking at the stars. I was just out this week and over the weekend. and we were at a place, and you know, those times you get like antsy. It's like, ah, okay, I'm enjoying the live music, but I'm ready to go.

Well, when you get a cigar in your hand, it just kind of slows you down and you, you, you take more time and you appreciate things. So I'm not telling people to smoke and get, I hope to God, you know, they don't get sick. I don't get sick. But man, I just, from natural tobacco vaping, Terrible cigarettes.

Terrible dipping, terrible like actual cigars and I just can't see a problem with them. So God, forgive me if I'm saying anything against [01:54:00] it's you or leaving people down the wrong path for health reasons. But it's brought nothing but benefit to my life. And it sounds like it's brought some benefit to your life, and I know friends.

Some are positions and they started smoking after they saw the results I had and they had the same results or better. So That's awesome. It's just like, it's one of those things that don't knock it till you try it. Right? I agree. I agree. Uh, Spurgeon has suffered with depression. I, I struggled with depression the last few years and he said the best thing, gift from God he's ever had is a good cigar.

Cause it just really helps. So that's it, man. On your journey the last month, me and you could talk all day. But for the listeners, any other parting advice, any other thoughts or anything else about the cigars, about the bananas or any other life tips before we take off? Yeah, I think the thing, one more thing on the cigars is that like, you know, cuz this weekend It was on [01:55:00] a, like, I, I just saved, I saved the cigars for the night, but then it was a weekend this Saturday, I believe.

And my wife and I had a good time and we were down at the beach and then we came back up and I was like, Hey, I'm gonna get my, I'm gonna get my cigar right. And I was like, oh, you know what, I'll just fired up and like, you know, smoking on the way down. Right. So I'm, I'm we got a little scooter that we drive up and down to the beach on, right.

And I was like, I just smoke it on the scooter. And you know, so I did that. And then, you know, I was, I was smoking, I was on the scooter and like, you know, it, it was just, it took away from my enjoyment of it. And like, I think that's the what, like What I've gotten out of the, the whole experience the most is like, like really like, you know, not trying to fit, you know, like fit everything in, you know, I was like, cause the cigar has become my nighttime thing and it's like, and it really forces me just to focus on that [01:56:00] one thing, right?

And as I was going down the, as I was going down the mountain back down to the beach and I was smoking cigar, I was like smoking. I was driving and I was like, Worried. Cause my wife behind me, I was, I was worried about like blowing smoke in her face. And it, and like the experience was not, wasn't even the same.

And I was like okay, I don't wanna do that again. Yep. So yeah, it was just like, it really reframed my perspective on things in such a short period of time. So, yeah, man, I'm glad you had that experience. And for the listeners who were thinking about her or might wanna try. It. It's not something like a cigarette.

It's terrible for you. I wanna keep saying that. It's poison, it's toxin. The only thing worse is cigarettes is vaping. Vaping is just insane. You're vaporizing toxic chemicals to put in your lungs. Cigars. You never bring 'em past your mouth. Okay, but. When you, what you're describing, I've had the same experience.

You know, if you're trying to work or, you know, build a fence or you're trying to drive somewhere, it's not like a cigarette. It's not [01:57:00] to, to have a habit. It's not to, you know, to have an addiction to it. Cigars are relaxed and chill, and personally, because I never want to be addicted to anything. I will not smoke when I'm angry.

I will not smoke when I'm like mega stressed, cuz I don't want anything in life to be a Cru crunch. A crunch. I just want things to be enjoyable. So I'm tracking with you, Ryan, the scooter, thinking about traffic. Oh my. You know, you don't wanna be rude to your wife and blow smoke in her face. I can totally see how that does that.

But if you and her are sitting down at night and you're watching the stars and you're talking, it's just a. Compliment to whatever you're doing then. And I think that's the experience you've had, right? Yeah. Big time. Yeah, man. Well, that's it Bo once again. It's been a David pleasure. We love you brother.

Yeah, good talk to you again. Yeah. Thanks for hanging out with us. And ladies and gentlemen, please subscribe to Bo's channel on my channel on YouTube, like [01:58:00] this podcast and not just so we can get famous, but so we can reach more people. Share. If we can help you, please let us know. And if you have an experience with a banana or a, or a cigar, not the Bill Clinton Kind, but the actual using it for your health, let us know how it turns out and we wish it the best.

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